Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread
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zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
The more I read and watch about Nixon, the more obvious it is Trump is just using his playbook. Communists are running the university poisoning the children. The press is the enemy, etc.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Well we are.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
President Donald Trump on Friday cleared the merger of U.S. Steel and Nippon Steel, after the Japanese steelmaker’s previous bid to acquire its U.S. rival had been blocked on national security grounds.
“This will be a planned partnership between United States Steel and Nippon Steel, which will create at least 70,000 jobs, and add $14 Billion Dollars to the U.S. Economy,” Trump said in a post on his social media platform Truth Social.
U.S. Steel’s headquarters will remain in Pittsburgh and the bulk of the investment will take place over the next 14 months, the president said. U.S. Steel shares surged more than 20% to close at $52.01 per share after Trump’s announcement.
President Joe Biden blocked Nippon Steel from purchasing U.S. Steel for $14.9 billion in January, citing national security concerns. Biden said at the time that the acquisition would create a risk to supply chains that are critical for the U.S.
Trump, however, ordered a new review of the proposed acquisition in April, directing the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States to determine “whether further action in this matter may be appropriate.”
Trump said he would hold a rally at U.S. Steel in Pittsburgh on May 30.
Bravo to President Trump!!
“This will be a planned partnership between United States Steel and Nippon Steel, which will create at least 70,000 jobs, and add $14 Billion Dollars to the U.S. Economy,” Trump said in a post on his social media platform Truth Social.
U.S. Steel’s headquarters will remain in Pittsburgh and the bulk of the investment will take place over the next 14 months, the president said. U.S. Steel shares surged more than 20% to close at $52.01 per share after Trump’s announcement.
President Joe Biden blocked Nippon Steel from purchasing U.S. Steel for $14.9 billion in January, citing national security concerns. Biden said at the time that the acquisition would create a risk to supply chains that are critical for the U.S.
Trump, however, ordered a new review of the proposed acquisition in April, directing the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States to determine “whether further action in this matter may be appropriate.”
Trump said he would hold a rally at U.S. Steel in Pittsburgh on May 30.
Bravo to President Trump!!
I disagree, though not because I think he or the government necessarily owe us solutions. The issue isn’t that RFK is insensitive or giving inaccurate information. But if your aim at HHS is to make America more healthy, you must grapple with the fact that poverty plays a huge role in the choices being made, and telling someone they’ll save in the long-run doesn’t do a damn thing if they can’t afford the short-term increases to their spending. Fully understanding the reasons people make these choices is every bit as important as diagnosing that these choices are driving the results. The two are completely intertwined and I think effective policy must take that into account. Otherwise that single mother he’s “responding to” will just ignore your wonderful facts and continue to buy the mega pack of Mac and cheese that they can actually afford.
Jamie Oliver actually had a segment similar to this with chicken nuggets some time ago showing how you can make your own healthy chicken for cheaper than pre-made. The issue is that time is often just as scarce as resources, and requires secondary ingredients and tools that some families might not have to begin with.
chop2chip
Well-known member
You’re criticizing RFK for telling the wrong truth. It’s pedantic and nitpicking.
As others have mentioned, it’s a fallacy to assume processed food is cheaper that whole / raw Foods. An Apple, egg, and rice is cheaper than the dollar menu at McDonalds. But even if I steel-man you’re argument and agree that people buy unhealthy food because they can’t afford healthy options, it doesn’t do them any favors by not telling them the consequences.
Honestly, that’s quite fair. I still think it’s at best an underwhelming answer to the question if your intent is to actually help anybody, but I think you’re right that I was overly critical of an accurate statement.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Yes it is. Especially if you consider what is a processed food. You'd be hard pressed to find a cheaper easier meal than Ramen or PB&J. And you'll be hard pressed to find cheaper bread than white bread.
Processed food is not necessarily pound for pound cheaper than whole/raw food, but when you're working a ton and don't have the time, what's easier to feed your kids, Cooking some ground beef and making a box mac and cheese and it costs like 5 bucks to feed your family or go to the store multiple times a week to make sure you have a good stock of fresh produce.
Then comes the aspect of food deserts, millions of americans don't have access to a grocery store.
Then the other thing for me to consider is there is an aspect of access to technology I never considered because while my family was very working class, we always had working fridge and my parents got access to a chest freezer that really let thme take advantage of sales on products. My dad infamously would stock up on really cheap foods.
While not a poor thing, I bought a shit ton of Brisket, USDA prime, it was only 4.5 a pound. No one around me has accesss to that because they don't have access to and don't have a freezer to store it.
There's a wide range between what RFK is talking about and what you're talking about. You're not wrong, Chicken and RIce is a really cheap way to live. I've been there done that. But it's not a perfect system and that's not what RFK is talking about. I would be dollars to donuts he'd only want people eating organic chicken.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I'm telling you what's going to happen. We've seen what RFK has said in the apst and knowing where he's going. Ultra-processed food is a made up label. And can encompass so many things.
For example consider this site
11 Ultra-Processed Foods to Avoid and 22 Healthier Swaps
We all know to avoid processed foods, but did you know there’s actually an entire new category of food that’s ultra-processed? Here’s how ultra-processed food is made, a list of foods to avoid, and how processed foods are defined differently than ultra-processed foods.
www.healthline.com
THey have ultra processed as fried chicken and processed being deli rotisserie chicken. Which has a fuck ton of processing. Look at the ingredients in Costco rotiserrie chicken it's got tons of processed ingredients.
And none of it matters. Studies have been done that it doesn't matter what you eat but how much of it.
Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds
Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts.
www.cnn.com