Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

mqt said:
If you think my point is that the experts are unencroachable, you misunderstand me.

The issue isn’t the skepticism of established science, it’s that they’re basing their new beliefs they intend to push on the public on less researched, less definitive links and studies. Less isn’t necessarily worse, but it’s not inherently better, and the federal government is practicing the same messaging strategy as the experts you’re pissing on. Donald Trump and RFK Jr. wanted a solution for autism, so Tylenol is now the hot topic of the day. Then they found evidence that Tylenol is not recommended for pregnant women and took a victory lap despite the fact that it had nothing to do with Autism. The links established in the study appear to have some questionable causation and the response of the government is just to push forward regardless and downplay the criticisms.

If you want to find a new set of experts, I understand that completely. But some of these replacement experts are not providing more thorough science, just science that comes to a conclusion that differs from the previous ones. Maybe spend some money digging in further instead of just declaring we’ve found a big cause of something and moving on.
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The issue is that there not a study available or that can be done that will be widely considered as trustworthy. And despite what any of us think of Trump, this problem isn’t on him. Scientists, academics, and bureaucrats widely abandoned their apolitical duty in favor of their ideology. How far down does that rot go? You’ve been researching autism. Where did you get the data? If you have been using data provided by other people you should now realize it’s not trustworthy because it is provided by fields and industries that are deliberately dishonest and willing to suppress anything that contradicts the preferred narrative.

This is why the anger toward Trump just astounds me. He made one link between autism and Tylenol that sounds like it has some basis in reality. The upside is that people don’t take a common medication they shouldn’t take when pregnant anyway, and maybe autism is reduced. The downside is lower Tylenol sales and some thoughts of ‘what if’ by people who used a common drug against the manufacturer recommendation.

The downside of dishonest research, review, and publication? A lack of trust in a lifetime of science and research.
 
I agree with a lot of pieces of that, but I’d shout out that the downside isn’t just Tylenol losing sales…it’s the best (only?) recommended fever reliever for women during pregnancy. Persistently high fevers are terrible for pregnant mothers and their babies. To be fair to Trump, he did say women should still take the medication for high fevers, but there’s still going to be that uncertainty (assuming people are listening to this advice at all). Will pregnant mothers push it with a fever, trying to avoid taking the medicine? There’s an important trade off here, and the government’s announcement did nothing to help work through it.

Let’s be generous and say there really is a link between Tylenol and autism…for every baby we spare from autism by avoiding the drug, how many others will suffer the serious consequences (organ damage, infections, heart defects, miscarriages) because a pregnant mother didn’t take a fever reducer?
 
100% tariff on foreign made movies. Glad to see the American film industry being protected from unfair competition. Hey steelworkers deserve it so do all Americans.
 
acesfull86 said:
I agree with a lot of pieces of that, but I’d shout out that the downside isn’t just Tylenol losing sales…it’s the best (only?) recommended fever reliever for women during pregnancy. Persistently high fevers are terrible for pregnant mothers and their babies. To be fair to Trump, he did say women should still take the medication for high fevers, but there’s still going to be that uncertainty (assuming people are listening to this advice at all). Will pregnant mothers push it with a fever, trying to avoid taking the medicine? There’s an important trade off here, and the government’s announcement did nothing to help work through it.

Let’s be generous and say there really is a link between Tylenol and autism…for every baby we spare from autism by avoiding the drug, how many others will suffer the serious consequences (organ damage, infections, heart defects, miscarriages) because a pregnant mother didn’t take a fever reducer?
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I share the same concerns, but I’m relieved th conclusion is at least somewhat based in scientific study. Pregnant women should be avoiding most medicine during pregnancy including Tylenol. The degree of which they are attributing this linkage to autism isn’t helpful and I suspect the net effect will be negative.

But I was expecting this to be a lot worse back when they announced they had found the cause of autism back in the spring
 
The good news is that altered hundreds of videos online of pregnant women downing Tylenol as a virtue signal against the orange man

Because they are the pro science rational party
 
mqt said:
“Keeps happening” he says about the handful of cases reported. This guy is kind of fascinating. He’s like an illegal immigrant supervillain. If it weren’t for the violence I’d say we should let him stay just out of sheer impressiveness of his grift. Like DiCaprio’s character in Catch Me If You Can.
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DON'T YOU DARE LOOK FOR MORE!

Was the message always.....

Its nice when you keep ignoring glaring red signs of fraud....
 
thethe said:
DON'T YOU DARE LOOK FOR MORE!

Was the message always.....

Its nice when you keep ignoring glaring red signs of fraud....
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I have no problem with them looking for more, and many states have been looking a whole lot. Not a great ROI on their efforts from what I’ve seen.
 
https://twitter.com/x/status/1973019882661765516

After the usual dog and pony media show the Democrats setup early on is over the people of this country wake up and realize all their policies suck and MAGA is the only way forward.

When the economy turns in 26 and wages for non-high skilled workers skyrockets the polls will show Trump/Republicans on the way to hold and even grow their majorities in 26 mid terms.
 
I played pickleball with a mexican/us citizen last night

his family lives at a border town. He has friends in ice, border patrol, and illigal citizens

hes a liberal. Doesnt like trump. Voted for kamala

But says everyone on those border towns, Mexican or not, are hard-core trumpers bc hes the first president who actually tries to do something about the inflow.

He says 75% of crossings are hard working people trying to make it. But 25% is a lot when you let in millions. Says his parents say its scary seeing random men running across their yards on a daily basis. Has ruined their quality of life

Interesting perspective
 
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