Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

Jaw said:
I’m not certain that it does actually exist as a separate entity from whatever the fashionable riot group of the season is that always exists. I remember during the first Trump presidency, someone on Twitter had a long thread where they went to several leftist protests all across the country and photographed many of the same people getting off buses and then participating at several of the protests. Some of the outfits they wore were even the same. Whether it’s an Antifa, BLM, NAMBLA, anti-ICE, ACAB, Pride, abortion, Occupy, or whatever other kind of protest that pays people to be there and then peacefully turns into a riot, the goal is the same: the destruction of Western civilization. I think it’s a reasonable assumption that the people footing the bill are also the same. Those riots are dangerous and expensive, so I think an investigation into whether someone is essentially paying people to scream ‘fire!’ in a crowded theater is warranted.
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I equate these groups to how terror groups are organized in the Islamic world. They are separate but display lots of incestuous relationships.
 
thethe said:
My jaw (tee hee) hits the floor when reasonable people can't admit such a basic reality that Antifa exists, is well organized/funded and poses an existential threat to our country.
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There’s nothing unreasonable about asking for evidence.

BTW, show me a reasonable person who doesn’t believe what you wrote before your comma…you like to move the goalposts and claim anyone needing to see proof for the 2nd half of your sentence is therefore rejecting the 1st half of your sentence. The logic doesn’t follow.
 
I had an acquaintance in Berkeley who seemed to be an antifan. He went by the moniker Air. I always wondered if it was short for Airhead.
 
acesfull86 said:
There’s nothing unreasonable about asking for evidence.

BTW, show me a reasonable person who doesn’t believe what you wrote before your comma…you like to move the goalposts and claim anyone needing to see proof for the 2nd half of your sentence is therefore rejecting the 1st half of your sentence. The logic doesn’t follow.
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Existence defined as merely their presence is an irrelevant recognition event. To not recognize the coordinated nature as well as their funding effectively states you don't think they exist.
 
thethe said:
Existence defined as merely their presence is an irrelevant recognition event. To not recognize the coordinated nature as well as their funding effectively states you don't think they exist.
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If you can recognize their coordinated nature and their funding, then you should have no problem showing us the evidence.
 
sturg33 said:
Evidence aside, do YOU believe its not coordinated?

Seems to me it must be
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I’m certainly open to the possibility, but I think thethe’s characterization - “antifa is an organized terrorist org funded by billionaires” - is an overstatement. If they’re as coordinated as some are claiming, I’d like to think we’d know way more about the coordinators at this point.
 
acesfull86 said:
I’m certainly open to the possibility, but I think thethe’s characterization - “antifa is an organized terrorist org funded by billionaires” - is an overstatement. If they’re as coordinated as some are claiming, I’d like to think we’d know way more about the coordinators at this point.
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Funny thing about billionaires and money - They are very good at hiding/masking funds transfers especially when they know they are of nefarious nature.
 
sturg33 said:
Evidence aside, do YOU believe its not coordinated?

Seems to me it must be
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An interesting question but the answer is besides the point. Burden of proof is on the government not aces.

I’d guess that there are well funded groups who do sprinkle funding at Antifa themed organizations that aren’t connected with one another. No problem with the government investigating that relationship, but there’s a real threat to freedom of speech if we don’t hold our side accountable.
 
fwiw, Air (Airhead) mostly mooched off his sister (probably not a billionaire). I don't know if that counts as coordinated funding. He did provide some babysitting services for his nephew in return.
 
chop2chip said:
An interesting question but the answer is besides the point. Burden of proof is on the government not aces.

I’d guess that there are well funded groups who do sprinkle funding at Antifa themed organizations that aren’t connected with one another. No problem with the government investigating that relationship, but there’s a real threat to freedom of speech if we don’t hold our side accountable.
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In every great conflict - make no mistake about it we are in a global conflict against the left - sacrifices must be made to ensure the continuation of civil society.
 
thethe said:
I'm sure the Russian people in the early 20th century were relieved that governemtn didn't do enough to stop the Bolsheviks.
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Proving a great point here because the Bolsheviks were a horrible solution to a horrible problem (half the country was serfs, the Romanovs were brutal who killed and imprisoned dissidents, etc).

Let’s not be like the Romanovs or the Bolsheviks :)
 
chop2chip said:
Not sacrificing my freedom. Sorry. BYE
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Just your life/livelihood if we fail against them.

But sure, have to really worry about phones being tapped or communications being monitored (as if this would actually happen to you).
 
chop2chip said:
Proving a great point here because the Bolsheviks were a horrible solution to a horrible problem (half the country was serfs, the Romanovs were brutal who killed and imprisoned dissidents, etc).

Let’s not be like the Romanovs or the Bolsheviks :)
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But if Bolsheviks are at your door you better do something and do it decisively/early.

We are not in early 20th century Russia yet.......

People acting like this same act of 'Antifa' or whatever thye want to call themselves hasn't been replicated time and time again across the world for the last 200 years.
 
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