Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

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Jacqueline Marsaw, a political staffer for (D) Rep. Bennie Thompson posted that Crooks should "get him some shooting lessons."

Former Connecticut Democrat state rep Ken Gucker posted a meme of 60's TV show Get Smart with the writing "Missed it by that Much"

Dave Gegorek, a radio producer for a News radio station in Baltimore posted "Someone took a shot at Trump and missed. Do better next time."

When Celebrity Kyle Gass was asked what his birthday wish would be, he stated "Don't miss Trump next time."

Before the assassination even happened, actress Lea DeLaria posted a video calling for Joe Biden to take Trump out, and said she would "pay for the bullets."

All this from a 2 minute google search. NO CHATGPT NEEDED!
 
what is known about Ryan Wesley Routh's ideology

ChatGPT said:​

Here’s a summary of what is publicly known (as of now) about Ryan Wesley Routh’s ideology / political views — what is clearer, what is murkier, and where information comes from.


What​

  1. Independent / Unaffiliated Voter
  2. Evolving / Mixed Political Support
    • He expressed support for Donald Trump in 2016. Newsweek+2FactCheck.org+2
    • At later times, he voiced disappointment with Trump. For instance, in social media posts by 2020 he said “I will be glad when you are gone.” NPR+2Wikipedia+2
    • He also supported Bernie Sanders (in 2020) and Tulsi Gabbard. FactCheck.org+2NPR+2
    • More recently, he has expressed concern about “protecting democracy” and made small donations to Democratic causes. ABC17NEWS+3WHYY+3FactCheck.org+3
  3. Strong Support for Ukraine in the Russia-Ukraine War
  4. Critical of Both Major Parties, Disillusionment
    • He’s criticized both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party, in particular for how they treat independent candidates. Wikipedia+1
    • He self-identifies as independent, resisting being “put in a category” of party affiliation. NewsX+1
  5. Some Statements Suggesting Support for Political Violence / Extreme Frustration
    • In his book, he wrote things like “you are free to assassinate Trump as well as me for that error in judgment.” Wikipedia+2NPR+2
    • He has made posts expressing anger / desire for serious change, sometimes radical. WHYY+1

What Is​

  • Consistent Ideological Label:
    It is not clear that Routh fits neatly into a standard ideological category like “leftist,” “progressive,” “far-right,” etc. His views and actions seem to be a mix, sometimes aligned with causes more often associated with the left (like pro-Ukraine, human rights) and sometimes critical of both parties. Al Jazeera+2FactCheck.org+2
  • Mental Health / Delusions:
    Some reports (including Ukrainian officials) describe parts of his activity (especially recruitment of foreign fighters, claims of being part of Ukraine’s International Legion, etc.) as having “delusional ideas” or unrealistic / exaggerated claims. ABC17NEWS+1
    His legal team is considering insanity defenses. Wikipedia
  • Motivation for the Attempt:
    There’s not yet a fully verified, clear motive established publicly. His writings, social media, and his book suggest anger at Trump, disappointment, frustration, disillusionment. But whether those feelings alone explain the attempt, or whether there are more specific ideological drivers, remains uncertain. NPR+2FactCheck.org+2
  • Consistency Over Time:
    His political beliefs seem to have changed over time. He may have voted for or supported different candidates, sometimes Democratic, sometimes showing features more independent or even expressing support for different political figures (including some Republicans later). FactCheck.org+2WHYY+2

Tentative Characterization​

Based on what's known:

  • Routh appears to be someone who sees himself as outside the mainstream binary party system (Republican vs Democrat), often critical of both.
  • His ideology seems to include: support for democracy (or at least what he considers democratic values), strong anti-authoritarian or anti-autocratic sentiment (especially in the context of Russia-Ukraine), disillusionment with Trump and with political establishments.
  • He seems attracted to causes he views as moral or ethical (Ukraine, human rights) and is vocal about those.
  • But also, some of his ideas and claims are regarded by others as unrealistic, grandiose, or delusional.

If you like, I can pull together the primary sources (tweets, writings, book excerpts) to help you judge how radical or mainstream his ideology is. Do you want me to do that?
If you are using Chat GPT as your source, you have already lost.
 
Not to mention, you are completely delusional if you think tons of liberals weren't actively cheering this as it happened and weren't sorely disappointed when Trump wasn't actually killed. They just were smart enough not to post something publicly for fear of losing their jobs.

Just like I am not naive enough to believe that there aren't tons of people like thethe who wouldn't have cheered if the same thing happened to Biden/Harris/etc.
 
So voter ID isn't enough anymore.

WE need super voter ID or something.

I decided to do a tiny bit of digging and basically the background is that there's a process to check it all out.

Yes - You need an ID that can only be issued if you are a legal citizen. EARTH SHATTERING! Nobody ever said that a drivers liscense is the voter ID we want because we know states are issuing them out haphazardly to anyone which is why we are saying voter fraud is happening.

There is a process to check all this out.....AFTER THE ELECTION! Just don't you dare ask questions!
 
Yes - You need an ID that can only be issued if you are a legal citizen. EARTH SHATTERING! Nobody ever said that a drivers liscense is the voter ID we want because we know states are issuing them out haphazardly to anyone which is why we are saying voter fraud is happening.

There is a process to check all this out.....AFTER THE ELECTION! Just don't you dare ask questions!
States aren't issuing them out haphazardly you retarded twit.

I'm friends with a green card immigrant. He's been in the country for like 30 years or so. He doesn't vote because he wouldn't pass the registration. But he has a driver license. He has a Real ID, because he's a legal immigrant here with a green card.
 
States aren't issuing them out haphazardly you retarded twit.

I'm friends with a green card immigrant. He's been in the country for like 30 years or so. He doesn't vote because he wouldn't pass the registration. But he has a driver license. He has a Real ID, because he's a legal immigrant here with a green card.

And with this ID that isn't based on citizenship people are voting - Its the whole fucking issue....you retarded twit.
 
And with this ID that isn't based on citizenship people are voting - Its the whole fucking issue....you retarded twit.
You really are a special kind of stupid. You honestly have no clue how the American voting system works and it shows. So in this scenario, people cannot register to vote. It's why people ahve said voter ID is largely worthless. I guess I can give you credit for realizing that it's basically just a poll tax.
 
You really are a special kind of stupid. You honestly have no clue how the American voting system works and it shows. So in this scenario, people cannot register to vote. It's why people ahve said voter ID is largely worthless. I guess I can give you credit for realizing that it's basically just a poll tax.

If you actually listened they said these people are voting because they are showing an ID and signing a form under penalty of perjury they are US citizens.

Did you even fucking listen? Of course not.

And voter ID isn't worthless because it is a GUARANTEE that the person is a citizen and can vote. You just have no clue what you are talking about as usual.
 
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