Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

Hey now - Fetterman going to be R now?

Smart move
Not really, he's getting primaried no matter what. He isn't MAGA enough to not get primaried on the R ticket and right wing heel turn after brain damage meant he was going ot get primaried on the D side. He's going to hurt his long term standing as a potential centrist by not staying on the D ticket losing and calling the party looney and running a strong I campaign that's good enough that the Ds quietly bring him into the fold like Sanders.
 
Not really, he's getting primaried no matter what. He isn't MAGA enough to not get primaried on the R ticket and right wing heel turn after brain damage meant he was going ot get primaried on the D side. He's going to hurt his long term standing as a potential centrist by not staying on the D ticket losing and calling the party looney and running a strong I campaign that's good enough that the Ds quietly bring him into the fold like Sanders.

I think he could win a primary - His voting record and statements paint a very reasonable man
 
Doesn't he vote with the lunatics like 90% of the time?
I can tolerate a lot - I can't tolerate being a lunatic and pushing the kind of things the communists are pushing right now.

If I want society to function I have to give a little of what I don't want in certain areas. We live with too many idealists who don't see the world for what it is.
 
Is this data wrong from all the board members who insist there is no reason to screen?

Who said there is no reason to screen? There’s every reason to vet people - the question is which data is most relevant and predictive, and if you have good data on the individual, is their country of origin still a relevant screener?

The particular data in that chart might be “accurate” (it’s being posted by Trump, so I wouldn’t bet my life on it) but it’s also crude and arbitrary. Why do UK and Somalia get broken out as their own nations, but 650 million people get lumped together as North America? Is that really what you’d want to base decisions on?

There’s an active choice being made to either look at Canadians, Americans, and Mexicans as separate and distinct societies, or put them all in the same basket. Why someone makes that choice in one direction or another might just be because they have a preferred narrative in mind and they’re going to twist the data to lead to their preferred conclusions. Both would be able to justify their conclusions with the “data.”
 
Who said there is no reason to screen? There’s every reason to vet people - the question is which data is most relevant and predictive, and if you have good data on the individual, is their country of origin still a relevant screener?

The particular data in that chart might be “accurate” (it’s being posted by Trump, so I wouldn’t bet my life on it) but it’s also crude and arbitrary. Why do UK and Somalia get broken out as their own nations, but 650 million people get lumped together as North America? Is that really what you’d want to base decisions on?

There’s an active choice being made to either look at Canadians, Americans, and Mexicans as separate and distinct societies, or put them all in the same basket. Why someone makes that choice in one direction or another might just be because they have a preferred narrative in mind and they’re going to twist the data to lead to their preferred conclusions. Both would be able to justify their conclusions with the “data.”
As ive shared, in an ideal world, we allow extremely limited immigration, vet every individual, and accept basically the top 10% of applicants.

Thats not our system. And i dont really see a realistic path to get there.

Absent of that, if it is true that the average Somalia immigrant costs America - a country $40T in debt - $1.1M, than i am extremely comfortable putting a blanket ban on accepting immigrants from Somalia
 
That number account for some of them fleecing us for millions in govt scams or just drawing benefits off American taxpayers the Democratic way?
 
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