Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

Garmel said:
No, if I'm innocent I still want the investigation to go away.

This isn't Matlock where you want to go and prove your innocence. That's stupid because you could be innocent and still get hit with an ethics charge.
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What would need to happen for you to question his innocence?

And are you like thethe, where even if he is guilty you don't care?
 
sturg33 said:
What would need to happen for you to question his innocence?

And are you like thethe, where even if he is guilty you don't care?
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If there was more evidence I would believe it. He could very well be guilty of this but I don't know.

The fact that there was extortion involved here and that the so called "Ethics" Committee who leaked this to damage him I will give give him the benefit of the doubt.

I care what the law says in regards to a 17 year old having sex and not what what I personally believe.
 
I'm still flabbergasted that thethe can't see how buying a prostitute isn't as the very least being complicit in sex trafficking. Some estimates believe as many as 40% of prostitutes in the US are currently or previously have been the victim of sex trafficking. Roughly 80% admit that they have been abused either physically or sexually by clients. A large % of these women started prostituting either by force or by necessity before they were 18.

But sure, buying a prostitute is totally normal. Who's down for some hookers and blow this weekend?
 
So thethe if people aren't complicit in sex trafficking by having sex with a prostitute, are people that watch kiddie porn not complicit with child sex trafficking?
 
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Carp said:
I'm still flabbergasted that thethe can't see how buying a prostitute isn't as the very least being complicit in sex trafficking. Some estimates believe as many as 40% of prostitutes in the US are currently or previously have been the victim of sex trafficking. Roughly 80% admit that they have been abused either physically or sexually by clients. A large % of these women started prostituting either by force or by necessity before they were 18.

But sure, buying a prostitute is totally normal. Who's down for some hookers and blow this weekend?
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Show me where I said it was normal.

You are trying to make it out that this some disqualifying behavior as if it isn't practiced by a sizeable chunk of the organization.

You're the choir boy here - I want someone competent to do the job.
 
Carp said:
I guess people that watch kiddie porn are ok with thethe as well. I mean they aren't the ones trafficking or sexually assaulting the kids, amirite?
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Is this some sort of corrolary to Godwins law.

Sorry you live a sheltered life and didn't have any friends who did anything uncouth.

But if you dont' see the difference between getting a prostitute that is of legal age and kiddie porn well then you are a sad man.
 
Imagine actually trying to compare kiddie porn and legal prostitution and think you are making a good point.

Pathetic
 
thethe said:
Imagine actually trying to compare kiddie porn and legal prostitution and think you are making a good point.

Pathetic
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Legal prostitution? Uhhh unless he flew out to Nevada to a bunny ranch, it most certainly is not legal.
 
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Carp said:
Legal prostitution? Uhhh unless he flew out to Nevada to a bunny ranch, it most certainly is not legal.
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Fair distinction without an impact to he overall argument.

For some reason you equate the depravity of kiddie porn and an adult making a decision on what to do with their body.

Clearly you are thinking straight here3.
 
thethe said:
Show me where I said it was normal.

You are trying to make it out that this some disqualifying behavior as if it isn't practiced by a sizeable chunk of the organization.

You're the choir boy here - I want someone competent to do the job.
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Sure how about right here:

thethe said:
Drug users as a 'whole' is a wide ranging group.

Drug 'pushers' - Its liek a term from a six grade warning video.

Removed from reality? You think paying for sex is uncommon or disqualifying. You think all drug users are victims. You live in a kiddie world.
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If it's not uncommon, then it must therefore be common, which is the same as normal.
 
Carp said:
Sure how about right here:
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Oh you think uncommon and normal are the same things?

Uncommon is frequency while normal is more of a moral position to take. At least thats in my book.

It is in fact not uncommon for people to pay for sex.

When you say "Thethe think its totally normal" you are projecting a morality argument and you know it.
 
thethe said:
Fair distinction without an impact to he overall argument.

For some reason you equate the depravity of kiddie porn and an adult making a decision on what to do with their body.

Clearly you are thinking straight here3.
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IT'S NOT ****ING DECISION FOR NEARLY HALF OF PROSTITUTES! (Maybe even more than half)

How is this that ****ing hard? The world of prostitution isn't filled with high dollar call girls or strippers making money on the side. And there's nearly a 1 in 2 chance that any particular prostitute was trafficked into the business. It's often a vicious drug induced cycle.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Did I miss an argument about the war on drugs and prostitution?
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thethe thinks paying women for sex is totes cool and not related to sex trafficking in any way. He also has no problems with a mid 30 year old having sex with a minor if the allegations end up being true.
 
Carp said:
IT'S NOT ****ING DECISION FOR NEARLY HALF OF PROSTITUTES! (Maybe even more than half)

How is this that ****ing hard? The world of prostitution isn't filled with high dollar call girls or strippers making money on the side. And there's nearly a 1 in 2 chance that any particular prostitute was trafficked into the business. It's often a vicious drug induced cycle.
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So if this is your primary issue and there is absolutely no evidence of this in the Gaetz situation then why are you so outraged by these allegations?
 
Carp said:
thethe thinks paying women for sex is totes cool and not related to sex trafficking in any way. He also has no problems with a mid 30 year old having sex with a minor if the allegations end up being true.
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Yes - I said 'Totes cool'.

I'm sorry you can't think like an adult and can form a distinguishing thought whereby you may not agree with something but it doesn't make someone a monster if they do it. This is child like and immature but choir boys without exposure to the real world will have that happen to them.
 
thethe said:
Yes - I said 'Totes cool'.

I'm sorry you can't think like an adult and can form a distinguishing thought whereby you may not agree with something but it doesn't make someone a monster if they do it. This is child like and immature but choir boys without exposure to the real world will have that happen to them.
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The pivot from “release Epstein’s list” to calling anybody who doesn’t sleep with minors Choir Boys is a mighty bold one.
 
thethe said:
Yes - I said 'Totes cool'.

I'm sorry you can't think like an adult and can form a distinguishing thought whereby you may not agree with something but it doesn't make someone a monster if they do it. This is child like and immature but choir boys without exposure to the real world will have that happen to them.
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One of us is hurling around insults like choir boy and making up things and bringing nothing at all to back up their argument other than "Nuh-uh." . The other is bringing actual facts and statistics and also agrees with the ****ING LAW that prostitution is bad.
 
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