Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. v. Boockvar

Could not demonstrate injury prior to the election because the fraud didn't take place

You are confusing arguments based on legality/constitutionality with accusations that fraud will at some point happen. You ever heard of suing someone because they will commit fraud on someone in the future? They arent even alleging that the people they are suing will do the fraud. So yeah theres nothing they will do about claims of hypothetical fraud in the future which you cant even prove after the fact much less before the fact. There were several rulings on the legality of drop boxes and other stuff that the court did rule on and Trump lost. This was all legal theory and there were no material facts disputed by either side.
 
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Can't wait to see what this looks like when Ukraine war is over, costs of everyday goods are reduced and economy is soaring.
 
I think we called this a few months ago. When you have real men in charge things get better.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...dramatic-turnaround-denies-wokeness-is-factor

“Concerns about the Army being, quote, woke, have not been a significant issue in our recruiting crisis,” she said. “They weren’t at the beginning of the crisis. They weren’t in the middle of the crisis. They aren’t now. The data does not show that young Americans don’t want to join the Army because they think the army is woke — however they define that.”

Hegseth has vowed to remove “woke” programs and officers from the military. And during his hearing Tuesday, he told senators that troops will rejoice as the Trump administration takes office and makes those changes.

“We’ve already seen it in recruiting numbers,” he said. “There’s already been a surge since President Trump won the election.”

In fact, according to Army data, recruiting numbers have been increasing steadily over the past year, with the highest total in August 2024 — before the November election. Army officials closely track recruiting numbers.

Instead, a significant driver of the recruiting success was the Army’s decision to launch the Future Soldier Prep Course, at Fort Jackson, South Carolina, in August 2022. That program gives lower-performing recruits up to 90 days of academic or fitness instruction to help them meet military standards and move on to basic training.


In the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, 2024, the Army met its recruiting goal of 55,000 and began to rebuild its delayed entry pool. About 24 percent of those recruits came out of the prep course. Wormuth said she expects it will contribute about 30 percent of this year’s recruits.

The Army and the military more broadly have struggled with recruiting for about a decade, as the unemployment rate shrank and competition grew from private companies able and willing to pay more and offer similar or better benefits.

Just 23 percent of young adults are physically, mentally and morally qualified to serve without receiving some type of waiver. Moral behavior issues include drug use, gang ties or a criminal record. And the coronavirus pandemic shut down enlistment stations and in-person recruiting in schools and at public events that the military has long relied upon.

Wormuth said a private survey along with more recent data show that the key impediments to joining the military are concerns “about getting killed or getting hurt, leaving their friends and family, and having a perception that their careers will be on hold.”

That survey, done in 2022, found that “wokeness” was mentioned by just 5 percent of respondents.

Wormuth acknowledged that the latest data show one element mentioned by Hegseth — that the number of white men enlisting is a bit lower. She said the persistent criticism about wokeness could be one reason.

“Any time an institution is being inaccurately criticized and demeaned, it’s going to make it harder to recruit. And I think that is what we have seen,” she said. “In terms of ‘is the Army woke’ — which I will take to mean focused on things that don’t make us more lethal or effective or better able to defend this nation — I would say the Army is absolutely not woke.”

For what it’s worth, I think the last paragraph here encapsulates part of the problem. When the “patriotic” folks say the Army is too woke or any other pejorative thing, I could see there being a dip in recruiting even if the people don’t care about the thing that’s being said. You might see a similar issue play out as Dem rush to paint any action of Hegseth’s in a bad light.
 
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I kind of doubt we’re actually trying to do this, but I’m going to go on record as disapproving of any plan to revisit the boundary between the US and Canada.
 
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Hold up, you mean those IRS agents that got fired weren’t just going to see if I paid enough taxes in my paychecks? It’s going to instead enable large businesses to skate by?
 
What is this farce that people don’t get to pay their taxes? I saw Jon Stewart saying the same earlier

I mean it’s not optional
 
What is this farce that people don’t get to pay their taxes? I saw Jon Stewart saying the same earlier

I mean it’s not optional

Are you familiar with the term tax fraud? If so, do you think they just discover it by reading tarot cards or something?
 
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Assuming this isn’t just MAGA clickbait (which it probably is) this would be absurd. You run the agency, just hire people at government salaries if you’re going to pretend the FBI is going to assassinate you. Hiring a private security detail would almost certainly be more wasteful.

Also, if it is MAGA clickbait, I’m not optimistic for things if this qualifies as a positive action they want to promote.
 
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Yeah, let’s go ahead and get Japan cooking on their military again. Definitely nothing could ever go wrong there.

The “who makes these deals?” is objectively hilarious when it was because we neutered their military in WW2.
 
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