Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

Trump is not the law. He doesn’t get to dictate what is legal or not.
The winners dictate what is legal - The people determine what is legal.

I'm glad people like you who want gang members to be free aren't in power.
 
When you join a terrorist organization willingly then you deserve every punishment thrown at you.
I’m shocked that someone who asks me what a woman is every few weeks has so openly embraced such a radical change to the definition of terrorism.
 
I’m shocked that someone who asks me what a woman is every few weeks has so openly embraced such a radical change to the definition of terrorism.
MS-13 is a terrorist organization - Its members are terrorists.
 
MS-13 is a terrorist organization - Its members are terrorists.
I don’t need gangs to be re-branded as terrorists to be opposed to gang violence or to be in favor of deporting gang members, but I think this is all a bit of a stretch when it comes to the commonly understood meaning of terrorism. Doesn’t make them any less bad, just different. We just have much broader leeway when it comes to terrorism because of 9/11.
 
By the way, my point isn’t that you’re wrong to call them terrorists. My point is that you lot used to be the ones that clutched your pearls about re-defining things to suit your political agenda.
 
I don’t need gangs to be re-branded as terrorists to be opposed to gang violence or to be in favor of deporting gang members, but I think this is all a bit of a stretch when it comes to the commonly understood meaning of terrorism. Doesn’t make them any less bad, just different. We just have much broader leeway when it comes to terrorism because of 9/11.

The families of the girls hacked to death on Long Island don’t agree with you.
 
By the way, my point isn’t that you’re wrong to call them terrorists. My point is that you lot used to be the ones that clutched your pearls about re-defining things to suit your political agenda.
It’s not a political agenda. It’s reality.
 
The families of the girls hacked to death on Long Island don’t agree with you.
You’re describing gang violence, a thing we have always recognized as bad. I don’t really even take issue with the Trump Admin declaring them terrorists. If I have any qualms on the law side, it’s that we afford the government too much authority to combat terrorism when other types of violence are just as or more disruptive to Americans.
 
You’re describing gang violence, a thing we have always recognized as bad. I don’t really even take issue with the Trump Admin declaring them terrorists. If I have any qualms on the law side, it’s that we afford the government too much authority to combat terrorism when other types of violence are just as or more disruptive to Americans.
Gangs used to fight amongst themselves for territory. MS-13 brought their terror to non gang members and disrupted civil society.

It’s not even close tot he same.
 
It’s not a political agenda. It’s reality.
Well, I guess we know now that if Dems win again that you’ll agree that science and language are fluid and it’s fine if President AOC is just following the will of the people and imprisons someone in El Salvador for mis-gendering someone. After all, winners determine what the law is.
 
Well, I guess we know now that if Dems win again that you’ll agree that science and language are fluid and it’s fine for President AOC is just following the will of the people if imprisons someone in El Salvador for mis-gendering someone. After all, winners determine what the law is.

That isn’t reality. That’s a fantasy.

Fortunately the country will never crown AOC. But I hope she wins so Vance brings down a Reagan like majority.
 
We won’t lose because your side thinks this is the same argument.
I don’t think many on my side are particularly concerned with the etymological implications of classifying gangs as terrorist organizations actually. More of a niche argument than a leftist talking point.
 
I don’t think many on my side are particularly concerned with the etymological implications of classifying gangs as terrorist organizations actually. More of a niche argument than a leftist talking point.
Your leaders do - and it will crush your chances moving forward.
 
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