Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

Based on what I can tell I'm the only person on the board who managed to actually make money betting on the 2024 election.

But I'm happy to revisit the takes. If memory serves, I said Trump wouldn't win the general if he was the nominee. I changed my mind in the spring as I saw how pathetic Joe Biden was... and then they put the worst candidate is US history in his place.

If you want some tips and advice on how to actually make some money on predictions, let me know!

I actually did make money off the election.

Still doesn't change the fact on the BL level of crap that you spewed during the elction.
 
EU / India / Japan / Canada / Mexico are easy ones. I’d be surprised if they are still in place for another month. China and south East Asian countries I’d expect for a lot longer.

They’ll be taken down because we will get concessions in some form or another. The main target has always been China. Just like it was in term 1.
Those countries down work with China? Huh?

"Concessions in some form or another"

Why the hell are we doing this if the best we can explain our goal is "concessions in some form or another"

I agree they will be removed soon. Trump won't be able to sustain this economic carnage if he doesn't care. I expect a hallow announcement of some "deal" that means nothing and we will get 20 pages of posts from you claiming enormous victory
 
I actually did make money off the election.

Still doesn't change the fact on the BL level of crap that you spewed during the elction.
Oh I remember saying he would govern like a leftist, give us zero covid accountability, and shift the republican party to the left

Where do I collect?
 
My hot take is if Trump focused exclusively on China from the jump that he wouldn’t be under water politically.

Europe has been a shit partner when it comes to defense. Ukraine exposed the entire gambit. They’ve significantly underinvested in their own defense (they admit this!) and the Ukraine war exposed how vulnerable they are. It’s entirely reasonable that the US asks them to step up.
I think it should just be the case that we refuse to meaningfully fund their wars. I don’t mind expecting Europe to figure its own shit out, but I think it’s also fair to question whether or not every country in the world specifically owes the United States a duty for our global defense.
 
Oh you know what you were doing when you were “interested” in the van der plants endorsement. It’s all good. You were hysterically wrong and it’s over.
The only iowa prediction i made was one that I was right about and you were wrong about
 
Those countries down work with China? Huh?

"Concessions in some form or another"

Why the hell are we doing this if the best we can explain our goal is "concessions in some form or another"

I agree they will be removed soon. Trump won't be able to sustain this economic carnage if he doesn't care. I expect a hallow announcement of some "deal" that means nothing and we will get 20 pages of posts from you claiming enormous victory

They don’t act as hubs to bypass import duties. What are you even talking about? You don’t understand the difference between Europe or Vietnam/cambodia? How much less informed can you be on this issue?

Do you even understand the aggregate impact of the rest of the free world giving concessions will mean to American business.

Im just shocked at the level of ignorance
 
I think it should just be the case that we refuse to meaningfully fund their wars. I don’t mind expecting Europe to figure its own shit out, but I think it’s also fair to question whether or not every country in the world specifically owes the United States a duty for our global defense.
We’re saying the same thing. Europe needs to increase their own defense spending so the burden of protecting the west doesn’t fall on the only country that does.
 
They don’t act as hubs to bypass import duties. What are you even talking about? You don’t understand the difference between Europe or Vietnam/cambodia? How much less informed can you be on this issue?

Do you even understand the aggregate impact of the rest of the free world giving concessions will mean to American business.

Im just shocked at the level of ignorance
Youre on record saying the Canada tarrifs were about China.

Now you're saying they are exempt for the Chinese penalty.

It's pretty obvious whatever the argument of the hour is you are going move the goalposts
 
Youre on record saying the Canada tarrifs were about China.

Now you're saying they are exempt for the Chinese penalty.

It's pretty obvious whatever the argument of the hour is you are going move the goalposts
Again / it’s not even close to the same thing. It’s just embarrassing that you are bringing this up.

The concessions for Canada and Mexico is reducing China influence there as well as the reverse opium war. China hasn’t exported whole industries to bypass tariffs and other import duties.
 
People don't understand how Europe uses their VATs.
Very few Americans actually understand how VAT works. Unless you’ve worked for a multinational corporation that has several services or products subject to various VAT schedules/rates or rules on refunds it’s difficult to understand.
 
We’re saying the same thing. Europe needs to increase their own defense spending so the burden of protecting the west doesn’t fall on the only country that does.
Sorry, I thought you were agreeing with thethe’s proposal. Yes, I agree Europe needs to step up their own defense. But at the end of the day, we either give away money and supplies or we don’t. I’m not nearly qualified to determine when or where we should deploy that option, but I don’t think we should be adding to the burden of the American people to flex our muscle in every foreign conflict. If we do elect to assist, I think it should be understood that we made a big boy decision and either have solid boundaries and eventual compensation in place ahead of time. I actually don’t think things like the mineral deals are unreasonable, particularly if established in advance. If we’re going to essentially be silent mercenaries in these conflicts, I don’t think getting something in return is wrong.
 
Sorry, I thought you were agreeing with thethe’s proposal. Yes, I agree Europe needs to step up their own defense. But at the end of the day, we either give away money and supplies or we don’t. I’m not nearly qualified to determine when or where we should deploy that option, but I don’t think we should be adding to the burden of the American people to flex our muscle in every foreign conflict. If we do elect to assist, I think it should be understood that we made a big boy decision and either have solid boundaries and eventual compensation in place ahead of time. I actually don’t think things like the mineral deals are unreasonable, particularly if established in advance. If we’re going to essentially be silent mercenaries in these conflicts, I don’t think getting something in return is wrong.
Or taking Greenland for defense : resources.
 
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