Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

thethe said:
International trade deals don’t happen overnight. Even beteeen two willing parties. Each nation needs to look out for their best interests.

Do your sales deals happen overnight?
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I mean... thats what we did. We just imposed new tarrif rates overnight. 10% on everyone. Done

Why isnt europe ready to do the same since they see this as a great partnership we are offering them
 
sturg33 said:
I mean... thats what we did. We just imposed new tarrif rates overnight. 10% on everyone. Done

Why isnt europe ready to do the same since they see this as a great partnership we are offering them
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This is like saying your company increased their prices. A completely reasonable thing for an entity to do.

Thats not a trade deal.
 
sturg33 said:
i cannot.

im reasonably confident that the vast majority of the right would think differently about major economic issues than they do right now
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Who cares what they’d think - they’d have no power.

Say goodbye to RDS as a gov. What does Florida look like without him?
 
thethe said:
Who cares what they’d think - they’d have no power.

Say goodbye to RDS as a gov. What does Florida look like without him?
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I don't see any value in discussing unprovoked hypotheticals.

I think we would be much better off if Rand Paul won in 2016. Or RDS won in 2024. I know your position so save the bandwidth. They would have never won. Only Trump can win. Trunp is the only person on the planet who could beat Joe Biden. I disagree with that. We can't prove either side. No value in discussing
 
Garmel said:
Because high interest rates can be quite dangerous for our economy. That's why we also have safeguards for our stock market as well. I guess that's leftist and communism as well.

Dude, the left are attacking Trump's tariffs too. MQT and BL hate them.

You're in economic solidarity with the leftists on the board and most of the democrat party.

You're a leftist 🤣
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Much of the Democratic Party doesn’t actually understand all of why their position on tariffs is their position, or else they would not hold many of the other economic positions they do. I’m not really attacking most of this from the left. I’ve said from the beginning this is just a more complicated and destructive version of a massive minimum wage increase, or carbon tax or any number of measures enacted or proposed by Dems to improve some metric they want to improve. I don’t think you should tax behaviors or artificially change equilibriums in a market any more than you must.

Where I think I get a little loony is on income tax.
 
sturg33 said:
I don't see any value in discussing unprovoked hypotheticals.

I think we would be much better off if Rand Paul won in 2016. Or RDS won in 2024. I know your position so save the bandwidth. They would have never won. Only Trump can win. Trunp is the only person on the planet who could beat Joe Biden. I disagree with that. We can't prove either side. No value in discussing
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It’s not hard to come to that conclusion. I know you know that deep down but it’s difficult to admit. Trump saved the Republican Party. It’s not even worth discussing I agree.
RDS could have won in 24. My point is he isn’t even a relevant figure if trump doesn’t run in 16.
 
Garmel said:
It sure as hell does. We pay 20%+ if we do business with them.

In theory they do as well but they subsidize their industry with rebates while hitting the people exporting to them hard.
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You're missing the other side of the equation. This is reminding me of the Trump argument that trade deficits are inherently a bad thing, not realizing there is an equal and offsetting capital account surplus. The VAT's are trade neutral.
 
thethe said:
It’s not hard to come to that conclusion. I know you know that deep down but it’s difficult to admit. Trump saved the Republican Party. It’s not even worth discussing I agree.
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It may be reasonable to make the claim that Trump was the only candidate in that field that could have pulled off the inside straight to beat HRC. I disagree but it's plausible

It's retarded to think nobody could be 2024 Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.
 
sturg33 said:
It may be reasonable to make the claim that Trump was the only candidate in that field that could have pulled off the inside straight to beat HRC. I disagree but it's plausible

It's retarded to think nobody could be 2024 Joe Biden or Kamala Harris.
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I added to my post saying I think RDS could have won in 24. Not as much of a sure thing as Trump though.

But RDS isn’t a relevant figure if not for Trump.
 
sturg33 said:
Unlike you and your fellow cultists, a political idiology is not centered around people, but ideas, policies, and principles

Price controls are a tyrannical socialist ideaoligy. But Trump likes them and now you do too. You're aligned beautifully with the lifelong liberal
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My fellow cultists? lololol

I opposed NAFTA before you were born so to say I'm following Trump is retarded.

You're much more of a cultist that I am. Your fixation on Trump and thethe pretty much proves that.

This country has had price control on certain things since . How about we try your version of the stock market and see how long it holds.

The Founding Fathers believed in tariffs and public education..

There were commies too. lol
 
Garmel said:
My fellow cultists? lololol

I opposed NAFTA before you were born so to say I'm following Trump is retarded.

You're much more of a cultist that I am. Your fixation on Trump and thethe pretty much proves that.

This country has had price control on certain things since . How about we try your version of the stock market and see how long it holds.

The Founding Fathers believed in tariffs and public education..

There were commies too. lol
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I agree with you about NAFTA. Let's leave it!

But the american revolution was sparked by tarrifs on tea
 
thethe said:
I added to my post saying I think RDS could have won in 24. Not as much of a sure thing as Trump though.

But RDS isn’t a relevant figure if not for Trump.
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i don't agree. He was elected to congress well before Trump. He won the Florida primary absent a Trump endorsement (i could be wrong on that but dont think Trump picked a candidate in the primary?)... and he won the election like e every other Republican won before him
 
sturg33 said:
i don't agree. He was elected to congress well before Trump. He won the Florida primary absent a Trump endorsement (i could be wrong on that but dont think Trump picked a candidate in the primary?)... and he won the election like e every other Republican won before him
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No - trump endorsed him in the primary when he was losing.
 
thethe said:
Without representation.

America had a chance to vote on trumps tariffs. They spoke loud and clear.
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We’ve already enacted tariffs far beyond what we’ve been charged by other countries and did so under the false guise of a national emergency. Who all voted for that?
 
sturg33 said:
I agree with you about NAFTA. Let's leave it!

But the american revolution was sparked by tarrifs on tea
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Taxation without representation I believe.

Do you believe the Founding Fathers were leftists, commies, etc. for liking tariffs and public education. Just curious.
 
mqt said:
We’ve already enacted tariffs far beyond what we’ve been charged by other countries and did so under the false guise of a national emergency. Who all voted for that?
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Trumps rhetoric ok tariffs was very clear not only in the election season but literally his whole life.
 
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