You can pretend you think of America as a courntry first and don't put economic issues first and foremost.
Don't tell you don't think there are lots of macro benefits of illegals being int his coutnry.
Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread
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You can pretend you think of America as a courntry first and don't put economic issues first and foremost.
Don't tell you don't think there are lots of macro benefits of illegals being int his coutnry.
Just wait till the 'courts' get involved with normal deportations.
We will see where people stand then.
Your position has morphed to be that anybody who objects to outright extrajudicial remedies for immigration must not want deportations and you’re missing a large segment of the population. As I’ve said, I understand completely that some of my views on immigration are not the mainstream right now. But you need to recognize that it’s not a binary choice wherein you’re either MQT or thethe. Others can want illegal immigrants to all be deported without wanting to set a precedent where the President can just tell the entire judicial system to kick rocks.
This guy is MS-13. You know he is. Aces knows he is. Chop knows he is.
I don't give a fuck about due process when its so clear. If your ideology forces you to care about this animal then you should rethink your ideology.
The left should run on the fact that Trump shouldn't have sent a member of MS-13 to a foriegn jail.
acesfull86
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These are the kinds of gymnastics one should expect from those who mock "PRINCIPLES"
Aces is then on record saying defying hte court on student loan forgiveness is the same thing as defying them from preventing deportation of criminals.
To have a world view that is so narrow must be depressing.
acesfull86
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Crazy idea to tell the courts they are crazy for not allowing the executive branch to deport a criminal illegal alien part of a multinational gang that is the equivalent of a terrorist group.
acesfull86
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Yes, I am on record saying the POTUS defying a court order is the same as the POTUS defying a court order. Guilty!
chop2chip
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What court is preventing him from deporting illegal immigrants?
I must have missed that ruling
Ignoring the rest because it’s just a direct retelling of the same blatantly unconstitutional slop, but stopping to ask how you think we’re funding this whole affair. Is ICE filled with scrappy volunteers and running their planes on American wishes? You’re taking many of my tax dollars to deport people from cities in California, Texas and New York, places I’ve never even been. That won’t reduce crime for me, an American. So no, I disagree with you that this isn’t taking from my pocket to benefit others. It’s *different* but it’s not entirely incongruent.
Narrow world view - Depressing.
What due process in your mind will illegals need to be deported? How will that be adjudicated? What rights will be given to the potential deportees to argue their case? How many delays should they get?
acesfull86
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Narrow world view is sacrificing your ability to follow basic logic in service of a cult leader
Yes - Its all goes back to that.
Its not that we demand that the 10-15M plus illegals that flooded our border during the autopen regime should be sent home regardless of what 'courts' say.
ITS ALL ABOUT TRUMP!
But again, you see economic benefits of having illegals here so you're conflicted.
Use some of that money you’re using to pay El Salvador to hire some immigration judges.
I don’t know what the actual right answer is, but in the case of sending them to a mega prison, I think it’d require a lot actually. So just stop doing that.
Trump isn't trying to do that so this a red herring to avoid answering the question - The reason you're doing that because your answer is effectively an impossible hurdle to ensure that people at scale are deported as the AMerican people voted for.
But Trump was right to send this animal to a foreign prison. Its the country of his origin and he is a crminai. .