Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

acesfull86 said:
How was I to know they were treated poorly without seeing the result of the next presidential election? The executive gets to decide in the moment who deserves due process, then the will of the people makes the final call on whether that action was justified or not when they cast their ballots.
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Yup
 
thethe said:
Tell me when trump denies a citizen of any rights.
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Why would that matter? Let’s say he does. Then he runs again in 2028 and wins. Under thethe’s system, the executive is now allowed to deny citizens rights.

And “citizens” don’t get “rights” btw …there’s no Constitution in this scenario
 
There is the small matter that the January 6th perps WERE in fact afforded due process. Some of y'all might have been unhappy with the outcome, but that's a different matter.
 
acesfull86 said:
Why would that matter? Let’s say he does. Then he runs again in 2028 and wins. Under thethe’s system, the executive is now allowed to deny citizens rights.

And “citizens” don’t get “rights” btw …there’s no Constitution in this scenario
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Ok - this isn’t the argument and you know it isn’t. But you have to extend it because the idea that this scumbag deserves what you think due process means it a ridiculous notion.
 
nsacpi said:
There is the small matter that the January 6th perps WERE in fact afforded due process. Some of y'all might have been unhappy with the outcome, but that's a different matter.
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Yes solitary confinements and withholding of evidence is definitely what happened.
 
thethe said:
Ok - this isn’t the argument and you know it isn’t. But you have to extend it because the idea that this scumbag deserves what you think due process means it a ridiculous notion.
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It’s your system, not mine:

“The people who have power decide. Just like what was done during the autopen regime.

As has been the case since the beginning of time. The people will speak as to how correctly that power has been applied.”

If Trump stripped citizens of their rights and then voters re-elected him, that would be that.
 
Hegseth seems like a disaster.


In short, the building is in disarray under Hegseth’s leadership.

Fortunately, I was not a victim of this purge of his senior leadership. Like Caldwell and Selnick, I am a longtime backer of the secretary. In December, when his Senate confirmation was in jeopardy, I wrote an opinion piece arguing strongly that he was the best man to shake things up at a Pentagon in need of serious reform.
A month later, Hegseth invited me to stand up and lead the Pentagon public affairs operation for his initial time in the building, and then possibly take on another position in the department after that.

We accomplished a lot together, including bringing new, largely more conservative, media outlets into the Pentagon press space, and ensuring the public understands Trump’s commitment to rebuilding our military after four years of drift under President Joe Biden and his Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, including their injecting divisive identity politics and lowering high standards on body composition and physical fitness in the uniformed services.

Last week, a month after leaving my public affairs role, I respectfully declined the secretary’s generous offer for a new position and informed him of my decision to leave the department, wishing him all the best. I value his friendship and am grateful for his giving me the opportunity to serve. I salute his leadership in helping the president make America strong again.

Yet even strong backers of the secretary like me must admit: The last month has been a full-blown meltdown at the Pentagon — and it’s becoming a real problem for the administration.
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Pope Francis allegedly using what little time he had left in the world to scold JD Vance is quite the story for the oral history of the second Trump term.
 
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