Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

mqt said:
This is the trap we can easily fall down if we allow ourselves. A hypothetical President AOC would surely not govern with the same policy priorities as Trump, but if we would accept her governing in the same manner: ignoring court orders and bypassing Congress through EOs for speed and/or convenience, the complaints about Trump’s actions feels unprincipled.
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That doesnt answer the question of what shes done to lead you to say that
 
57Brave said:
That doesnt answer the question of what shes done to lead you to say that
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Public statements over the years. She’s occasionally supported measures and made arguments I’ve found hypocritical and/or disingenuous.

I don’t think she’s corrupt, and I don’t think she even has the wrong motivations or goals, but I think she sometimes leans overtly partisan.
 
In April 2023, during an interview on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360, AOC reacted to a federal court decision on medication abortion, stating that the Biden administration “should ignore this ruling.” She argued that the ruling was an overreach by partisan judges and suggested that the administration could choose not to enforce it, emphasizing that court rulings rely on enforcement and raising questions about judicial legitimacy.Court?

Additionally, in July 2023, AOC told CNN’s State of the Union that the Supreme Court was overreaching its authority, particularly regarding its decision to block Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan. She stated, “We truly believe that the president – Congress has given the president this authority. The Supreme Court is far overreaching their authority,” and called for discussions about judicial review as a check on the courts.
 
sturg33 said:
In April 2023, during an interview on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360, AOC reacted to a federal court decision on medication abortion, stating that the Biden administration “should ignore this ruling.” She argued that the ruling was an overreach by partisan judges and suggested that the administration could choose not to enforce it, emphasizing that court rulings rely on enforcement and raising questions about judicial legitimacy.Court?
mqt said:
Public statements over the years. She’s occasionally supported measures and made arguments I’ve found hypocritical and/or disingenuous.

I don’t think she’s corrupt, and I don’t think she even has the wrong motivations or goals, but I think she sometimes leans overtly partispresicouldn't
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Additionally, in July 2023, AOC told CNN’s State of the Union that the Supreme Court was overreaching its authority, particularly regarding its decision to block Biden’s student loan forgiveness plan. She stated, “We truly believe that the president – Congress has given the president this authority. The Supreme Court is far overreaching their authority,” and called for discussions about judicial review as a check on the courts.
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mqt said:
Public statements over the years. She’s occasionally supported measures and made arguments I’ve found hypocritical and/or disingenuous.

I don’t think she’s corrupt, and I don’t think she even has the wrong motivations or goals, but I think she sometimes leans overtly partisan.
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And couldn't we apply those traits to any and all members of Congress ?
Overly partisan is her sin. Again, that could be applied to any Congressperson worth their salt.
Looking at Massey or when still relevant, Amish
 
57Brave said:
And couldn't we apply those traits to any and all members of Congress ?
Overly partisan is her sin. Again, that could be applied to any Congressperson worth their salt.
Looking at Massey or when still relevant, Amish
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We certainly could. I probably wouldn’t vote for just about any of them if I had the chance not to.
 
57Brave said:
And couldn't we apply those traits to any and all members of Congress ?
Overly partisan is her sin. Again, that could be applied to any Congressperson worth their salt.
Looking at Massey or when still relevant, Amish
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If Trump saying defying the courts is disqualifying, then why isn't AOC saying the same thing also not disqualifying?
 
Throw out the baby with the bath water do ya ?
I really dont think we have to worry about her being a Presidential
candidate.

Saying defy the courts is one thing, defying
the courts ... Congesspeople talk. Always have, always will.
POTUS candidates talk

What proposed bills or votes back up that talk ?
 
sturg33 said:
If Trump saying defying the courts is disqualifying, then why isn't AOC saying the same thing also not disqualifying?
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People. Say all kinds of stuff.
What do they do

I never said or thought what Trump
said as a candidate disqualifying.

By 2024 he had a record and history.
Shoot, by 2016 he had a record indicating what
and where he would go.
Amish was slow seeing it..
 
sturg33 said:
Mqt is always screaming "ahhhh! Trump is an authoritarian!!!"

Of course he is. He's a leftist. They all are.

He'll be voting (D)
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I don’t know about *always* but maybe if he stopped doing a bunch of openly authoritarian stuff like sending people to third-world prisons without a trial I could scream less.
 
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