Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

Also, when the media is reporting in surprise on how not rich a former president is getting after his term, it might be time to burn this whole motherfucker down.
 
mqt said:
Also, when the media is reporting in surprise on how not rich a former president is getting after his term, it might be time to burn this whole motherfucker down.
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Looks like they are just reporting what he said
 
nsacpi said:
Considering colonialism included large scale slavery and indentured servitude not to mention huge numbers of deaths via exposure to novel pathogens it is unlikely the balance has been a positive one for the subject peoples.

The economic benefits for the colonial powers were enormous. A number of them christened their colonial epoch a "golden age." The term is no longer fashionable because they have come to a better understanding of the foundations of their golden ages.

Cities like London and Amsterdam continue to benefit hugely from the culinary and other contributions of people who come from their former colonies, a form of appropriation I view as much more palatable. Dutch food (pastries excepted) is pretty bad. Thank God for the Surinamese and Indonesian contributions to their food culture.

As for traditional English food, the less said the better. London is now a phenomenal foodie city thanks in large part to its immigrant population.

It is also not widely recognized how large a contribution soldiers from their colonies made to Great Britain's fight for survival during World War II. Two of my uncles served in their armed forces. The Battle of Britain, which saved the country, featured quite a few brown skinned pilots.
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This post reminded me of the disease outbreak that nearly wiped out civilizations in Central and South America after contact with Europeans, greatly reducing the number of people available to those civilizations for slavery or human sacrifice.

Of course it also brought to mind the slave dealing Europeans who went to the African coasts to purchase slaves, paying the natives for slaves instead of capturing their own, in a nod to the expertise the natives already possessed in capturing slaves.

At the same time I am reminded of some of my own Scots-Irish ancestors who came to America as indentured servants.

Then I think of all of those things together and have to wonder if you truly thought you were making a point.
 
Jaw said:
This post reminded me of the disease outbreak that nearly wiped out civilizations in Central and South America after contact with Europeans, greatly reducing the number of people available to those civilizations for slavery or human sacrifice.

Of course it also brought to mind the slave dealing Europeans who went to the African coasts to purchase slaves, paying the natives for slaves instead of capturing their own, in a nod to the expertise the natives already possessed in capturing slaves.

At the same time I am reminded of some of my own Scots-Irish ancestors who came to America as indentured servants.

Then I think of all of those things together and have to wonder if you truly thought you were making a point.
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Also the pathogens exchange went both ways. Columbus' men brought syphilis back to Europe.
 
Picture of some of the pilots in the RAF during WWII. Sikhs. Muslims. Hindus. Some died young. One went on to become head of India's Air Force after independence.

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One major problem I have with the Colonialism Was Good, Actually argument is it treats the here and now as what really matters. I don’t doubt that the British provided some technological advancements that aid Indians today. But I think there’s this implicit assumption that the only way for a society to have moved toward industrialization and technology was through colonization, and that’s informed by the fact that nations did a bunch of colonizing.

Again, I understand that we can’t just look at history through a modern lens and I’m aware that non-European nations did a lot of the same bad shit. But I still don’t think we need to extoll the virtues of colonialism because it brought about some changes that are a positive thing today. People were abused by the thousands and the remnants of those colonial practices are still causing various issues today. It’s not just a free trade of services we’re talking about here.
 
mqt said:
One major problem I have with the Colonialism Was Good, Actually argument is it treats the here and now as what really matters. I don’t doubt that the British provided some technological advancements that aid Indians today. But I think there’s this implicit assumption that the only way for a society to have moved toward industrialization and technology was through colonization, and that’s informed by the fact that nations did a bunch of colonizing.

Again, I understand that we can’t just look at history through a modern lens and I’m aware that non-European nations did a lot of the same bad shit. But I still don’t think we need to extoll the virtues of colonialism because it brought about some changes that are a positive thing today. People were abused by the thousands and the remnants of those colonial practices are still causing various issues today. It’s not just a free trade of services we’re talking about here.
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You act like abuses weren’t the commonplace in these native cultures as well. Western rule was a blessing for the world.
 
Since we know the census was done wrong (intentionally) how do we get back those seats they wrongfully went to democrats?

Why do we have to play by rules?
 
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