Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

mqt said:
lol, when was I ever all for Kamala Harris? Literally the only two pro-Harris things I think I ever said were that there was a roughly 2 week stretch where she campaigned well and that the bigger issue with her nomination was the lack of an honest primary earlier in the process. I was very anti-Harris as a candidate and anti-DNC for how they handled the nomination.
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You voted for her ?
 
The story will rightfully be the amount of money stolen and government complicity/ineptitude but a big focus has to be the sheer size of the fraud and how many people were AWARE of the fraud while active/passive engagement in the act.

Its damning and tells a story that makes a conclusion of remigration/halting ALL future immigration very reasonable.
 
sturg33 said:
I don't feel like there are any topics the right on this board ignore the way the left ignores immigrant fraud and crime
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to the extent there is an answer from data and research crime rates by immigrants are substantially lower than crime rates by native-born Americans
 
sturg33 said:
Cool.

What about the established fraudulent crime in Minnesota overseen by the guy you voted to be VP?
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what about it...it is a black mark against Walz...i'm not a big Walz fan but am more than happy i voted for Harris/Walz over Trump/Vance...would do so with equal enthusiasm now as I did then
 
nsacpi said:
what about it...it is a black mark against Walz...i'm not a big Walz fan but am more than happy i voted for Harris/Walz over Trump/Vance...would do so with equal enthusiasm now as I did then
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What about it? What about the fraud?

What do you think of it? What should be done about it?

Try to avoid "i support anybody breaking our laws should be punished to extent of our laws"

You voted for the guy who enabled this
 
As someone who supports a social safety I strongly support efforts to make it as efficient and free of fraud as possible. Those who perpetrated the fraud should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And the programs should be carefully analyzed and reformed as necessary to reduce the risk of fraud. As I noted I would vote as enthusiastically for Harris/Walz today as I did November 2024. Sorry if my answer uses words or phrases that you find objectionable.
 
nsacpi said:
As someone who supports a social safety I strongly support efforts to make it as efficient and free of fraud as possible. Those who perpetrated the fraud should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And the programs should be carefully analyzed and reformed as necessary to reduce the risk of fraud. As I noted I would vote as enthusiastically for Harris/Walz today as I did November 2024. Sorry if my answer uses words or phrases that you find objectionable.
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So if nobody in the democratic party of Minnesota faces penalty for their effort in this fraud, what will your response be?

(Nothing, of course. You'll be voting D, and nothing could ever change that)
 
He of course went with the standard of "anyone who committed crime should be held accountable "

So predictable. Just let the academics jerk each other off. That's the most they're good for
 
sturg33 said:
So if nobody in the democratic party of Minnesota faces penalty for their effort in this fraud, what will your response be?

(Nothing, of course. You'll be voting D, and nothing could ever change that)
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At various points in my life I've been a Republican, an independent and a Democrat. No party has my allegiance in perpetuity. It seems unlikely, however, that I will be returning to the Republican Party anytime soon. Integrity does matter to me. A great deal. That's why I'm a Democrat these days. The main reason as a matter of fact.
 
sturg33 said:
So if nobody in the democratic party of Minnesota faces penalty for their effort in this fraud, what will your response be?

(Nothing, of course. You'll be voting D, and nothing could ever change that)
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If I think the Republican Party will do even worse, why would I support *their* effort by electing them?
 
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