Second ('Third') Trump Presidency Thread

sturg33 said:
I feel bad for you, dude
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You can gaslight all you want but I am right. How do you think the country was formed? They asked nicely? That was political violence, treason, and murders of cops. Why do we have the second amendment. Any use of it is inherently political violence. Bombing Iran is political violence. Is it better if the gunman was sent by Iran? It's a war so it's not murder? The world operates on 1 rule. He with the biggest gun makes the rules. So fuck off with your sissy liberal pansy ass shit. If you bought the "violence is never the answer" propaganda then you are a sucker who cant overcome his indoctrination.
 
cajunrevenge said:
You can gaslight all you want but I am right. How do you think the country was formed? They asked nicely? That was political violence, treason, and murders of cops. Why do we have the second amendment. Any use of it is inherently political violence. Bombing Iran is political violence. Is it better if the gunman was sent by Iran? It's a war so it's not murder? The world operates on 1 rule. He with the biggest gun makes the rules. So fuck off with your sissy liberal pansy ass shit. If you bought the "violence is never the answer" propaganda then you are a sucker who cant overcome his indoctrination.
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So do you believe the left needs should assasinate Trump?
 
cajunrevenge said:
You can gaslight all you want but I am right. How do you think the country was formed? They asked nicely? That was political violence, treason, and murders of cops. Why do we have the second amendment. Any use of it is inherently political violence. Bombing Iran is political violence. Is it better if the gunman was sent by Iran? It's a war so it's not murder? The world operates on 1 rule. He with the biggest gun makes the rules. So fuck off with your sissy liberal pansy ass shit. If you bought the "violence is never the answer" propaganda then you are a sucker who cant overcome his indoctrination.
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This is so brain dead stupid it’s not even worth engaging.

Murder is bad, dude.
 
thethe said:
This is just like what happened in Russia in the early 20th century. We have to stop it before they destroy the nation.
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Cajun is rightfully getting a fair bit of scorn for his apparent pro-assassination takes, but this is just as stupid and wrong.
 
chop2chip said:
Serious people in the mainstream Democrat Party say they need to engage with this guy because he’s apparently the Joe Rogan of the Left.
https://twitter.com/x/status/2047027303306363352
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I think its not as black and white in terms of morality as you think it is. Doing harm to someone in a legal way is considered better than harming someone by doing something illegal. But what is and isn't legal can be really arbitrary. Abortion can be legal in one place and a death sentence in another. Both sides look at what the other does legally as monstrous. We have these faith grifters who use religion to scam old people. How many old people do you think died early because of not having money or were put in really bad positions? It's a lot. And these people love lives of luxury off these old people. Perfectly legal, but the world would still be a better place if Mario gave them bullet to the head disease. For me, I dont see the distinction between advocating for violence against someone via government and just straight up violence. If your political position is to put me in a cage for smoking a naturally growing harmless plant then I dont see the logic in hoping for their well being. Violence begets violence. If there is a victim to anything I do then I understand that should be illegal and I should be put on a cage for harming others.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I think its not as black and white in terms of morality as you think it is. Doing harm to someone in a legal way is considered better than harming someone by doing something illegal. But what is and isn't legal can be really arbitrary. Abortion can be legal in one place and a death sentence in another. Both sides look at what the other does legally as monstrous. We have these faith grifters who use religion to scam old people. How many old people do you think died early because of not having money or were put in really bad positions? It's a lot. And these people love lives of luxury off these old people. Perfectly legal, but the world would still be a better place if Mario gave them bullet to the head disease. For me, I dont see the distinction between advocating for violence against someone via government and just straight up violence. If your political position is to put me in a cage for smoking a naturally growing harmless plant then I dont see the logic in hoping for their well being. Violence begets violence. If there is a victim to anything I do then I understand that should be illegal and I should be put on a cage for harming others.
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I understand the point you’re trying to make and it’s one of my primary criticisms of modern conservative politics but the answer should be less institutional violence, not more random violence.
 
mqt said:
Cajun is rightfully getting a fair bit of scorn for his apparent pro-assassination takes, but this is just as stupid and wrong.
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I am not pro assassination of Trump. In fact I dont want it. Especially right now. Last thing I want is to see the right falling over themselves to see who can be the most devastating by dear leaders loss. I just think its very hypocritical to say "violence is never the answer" when it very clearly is the answer quite often.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I am not pro assassination of Trump. In fact I dont want it. Especially right now. Last thing I want is to see the right falling over themselves to see who can be the most devastating by dear leaders loss. I just think it’s very hypocritical to say "violence is never the answer" when it very clearly is the answer quite often.
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I agree on this front, and in fact burst out laughing at Sturg’s “the left called for this to happen” montage tweet. But I think there’s a fine line between calling out hypocrisy and blaming the victim that you appeared to be crossing.
 
mqt said:
I understand the point you’re trying to make and it’s one of my primary criticisms of modern conservative politics but the answer should be less institutional violence, not more random violence.
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Sure. I dont think people in modern day understand why MLK Jr was a hero. It's because they had every right to fight back with violence. But it would have only made shit worse for everyone.
 
mqt said:
I agree on this front, and in fact burst out laughing at Sturg’s “the left called for this to happen” montage tweet. But I think there’s a fine line between calling out hypocrisy and blaming the victim that you appeared to be crossing.
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How many war crimes has Trump comitted or threatened to commit. What's the penalty for war crimes?
 
mqt said:
I agree on this front, and in fact burst out laughing at Sturg’s “the left called for this to happen” montage tweet. But I think there’s a fine line between calling out hypocrisy and blaming the victim that you appeared to be crossing.
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Your political movement is actively engaging in discourse whether capitalism is “social murder” and suggesting killing them is “understandable”. You can stick your head in the sand and pretend this disease from the progressive flank of your party isn’t spreading, but it doesn’t change reality
 
cajunrevenge said:
I think its not as black and white in terms of morality as you think it is. Doing harm to someone in a legal way is considered better than harming someone by doing something illegal. But what is and isn't legal can be really arbitrary. Abortion can be legal in one place and a death sentence in another. Both sides look at what the other does legally as monstrous. We have these faith grifters who use religion to scam old people. How many old people do you think died early because of not having money or were put in really bad positions? It's a lot. And these people love lives of luxury off these old people. Perfectly legal, but the world would still be a better place if Mario gave them bullet to the head disease. For me, I dont see the distinction between advocating for violence against someone via government and just straight up violence. If your political position is to put me in a cage for smoking a naturally growing harmless plant then I dont see the logic in hoping for their well being. Violence begets violence. If there is a victim to anything I do then I understand that should be illegal and I should be put on a cage for harming others.
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Blah blah blah whatabout blah blah blah
 
cajunrevenge said:
Sure. I dont think people in modern day understand why MLK Jr was a hero. It's because they had every right to fight back with violence. But it would have only made shit worse for everyone.
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I think most schools do a pretty good job of showing his approach of non-violence in the face of such discrimination as the reason he’s a hero, just as they do with Gandhi. We don’t really disagree on the ills of our society, but I think rhetorically here you’re driving the wrong message. Political violence is a scourge, be it by an individual or a nation.
 
chop2chip said:
Your political movement is actively engaging in discourse whether capitalism is “social murder” and suggesting killing them is “understandable”. You can stick your head in the sand and pretend this disease from the progressive flank of your party isn’t spreading, but it doesn’t change reality
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My point isn’t that the left is doing nothing wrong. My point is that Supercuts of Dems saying incendiary things so that you can make this out to be a distinct feature of the left is a farce when the target of said violence is Donald fucking Trump, who demonizes or calls for violence against his political enemies every 15 seconds.
 
mqt said:
My point isn’t that the left is doing nothing wrong. My point is that Supercuts of Dems saying incendiary things so that you can make this out to be a distinct feature of the left is a farce when the target of said violence is Donald fucking Trump, who demonizes or calls for violence against his political enemies every 15 seconds.
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Democrats know their base are a bunch of psychotic freaks.

There is a difference.
 
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