Selling At the Deadline

Yeah. Key pieces being hurt/under performing/incarcerated plus poor bullpen management are really hampering the Braves. For everything that went right last year it's going wrong this year. Waiting for the actual deadline to make moves will only decrease our chances. If the idea is to make a push then the sooner the better. That being said, if they do wait I expect the team to move some expiring contracts unless some over performances between now and then happen.

Interesting piece about the Reds potentially selling because they probably need to get out from under several contracts - they'd probably take back some expiring money to make that happen. I'd think AA would have to be SURE he was out from under any future commitment to Ozuna before taking on anything substantial, but if he was we've probably got the types of pieces to line up with them in a blockbuster. Just using the full season salary numbers since I don't have time to put together the actual ones, if they'd take Ender and Smyly's expiring contracts back in a deal for Gray and Castellanos he'd "only" be adding $7-$8 million to what was the Opening Day payroll. Castellanos' deal lines up fairly similarly to what they were going to pay Ozuna to begin with, so the overall long-term commitment would be pretty similar (paying Gray for two extra years though).

Something like that would hurt the system, but you'd then be in a position to let Morton ride off into the sunset this winter and hope you could fill his spot with Soroka in 2022. If he willing to back the truck up (you guys will have to consult the charts, but something like Waters, Muller, Arcia, Shuster and maybe even some filler???) while holding onto Pache, Harris, and both Catchers it might be worth it.
 
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Damn. I expected Ynoa to back in July. It’s imperative that we get another starter if we’re not selling.
 
Still wouldnt have been against selling but i dont think anyone could have seen AA getting Duvall, Soler, Joc, and Rosario for Panda, Alex Jackson, Bryce Ball and Kasey Kalich.

Braves were incredibly unlucky in the 1st half, so the luck had to even out at some point in the 2nd half.
 
Still wouldnt have been against selling but i dont think anyone could have seen AA getting Duvall, Soler, Joc, and Rosario for Panda, Alex Jackson, Bryce Ball and Kasey Kalich.

Braves were incredibly unlucky in the 1st half, so the luck had to even out at some point in the 2nd half.

Well also most fans expected Rosario/Soler would be just mediocre upgrades
 
Still wouldnt have been against selling but i dont think anyone could have seen AA getting Duvall, Soler, Joc, and Rosario for Panda, Alex Jackson, Bryce Ball and Kasey Kalich.

Braves were incredibly unlucky in the 1st half, so the luck had to even out at some point in the 2nd half.

I could have seen all those things. Aside from Duvall, all of those guys had been pretty bad up until we acquired them. Soler had been heating up, but was overall still terrible.

And I still didn't think those guys would amount to much except for maybe making us an 82 win team instead of a 75 win team.

And let's not forget to thank the Mets, whose late season choke job should not go unmentioned. We wouldn't be here without the Mets pulling a classic Mets move and going from 6 games up, to 11.5 games down in a span of 2 months.
 
Still wouldnt have been against selling but i dont think anyone could have seen AA getting Duvall, Soler, Joc, and Rosario for Panda, Alex Jackson, Bryce Ball and Kasey Kalich.

Braves were incredibly unlucky in the 1st half, so the luck had to even out at some point in the 2nd half.

I was definitely for selling Freeman, Morton, and everything else at the deadline. Reloading for 2022 was definitely the right move on paper with a 7% chance of making the playoffs.

However, if Freeman and Morton were both going to refuse trades, selling made almost zero sense. We still don’t know if that’s the actual scenario AA was facing, but if it was, the acquisitions he made were almost perfect (wasn’t a fan of giving up real value for RiRod after his spin data tanked without the spider tack).

The fact AA caught 4 bolts of lightning in the same bottle while the Mets simultaneously collapsed is the type of good fortune that no team should ever bank on. But I’m beyond stoked that it happened!!

I’m still in disbelief.
 
I was definitely for selling Freeman, Morton, and everything else at the deadline. Reloading for 2022 was definitely the right move on paper with a 7% chance of making the playoffs.

However, if Freeman and Morton were both going to refuse trades, selling made almost zero sense. We still don’t know if that’s the actual scenario AA was facing, but if it was, the acquisitions he made were almost perfect (wasn’t a fan of giving up real value for RiRod after his spin data tanked without the spider tack).

The fact AA caught 4 bolts of lightning in the same bottle while the Mets simultaneously collapsed is the type of good fortune that no team should ever bank on. But I’m beyond stoked that it happened!!

I’m still in disbelief.

The thing is, none of those things have a chance to happen if the core isn’t already very good to begin with, even without its best player. I know you never suggested otherwise, but it wasn’t just blind luck that got us here. I just think that should be stated.
 
I was definitely for selling Freeman, Morton, and everything else at the deadline. Reloading for 2022 was definitely the right move on paper with a 7% chance of making the playoffs.

However, if Freeman and Morton were both going to refuse trades, selling made almost zero sense. We still don’t know if that’s the actual scenario AA was facing, but if it was, the acquisitions he made were almost perfect (wasn’t a fan of giving up real value for RiRod after his spin data tanked without the spider tack).

The fact AA caught 4 bolts of lightning in the same bottle while the Mets simultaneously collapsed is the type of good fortune that no team should ever bank on. But I’m beyond stoked that it happened!!

I’m still in disbelief.

Selling when you're a beat up team with the highest run differential in division and only 4 games out and the division leader is a negative differential team doesn't actually make sense

Particularly when they're the same Mets team that has collapsed every year in pretty much the same fashion.

AA bought low and make incremental improvements that made them a lot more likely to win than any projection poll suggested.
 
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