To be fair, I can remember several posters here who insisted the media/Atlanta fanbase response to the trade was overblown and offered the same justification as to why the trade wasn't bad from Arizona's point of view.
Shelby Miller deal revisited
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To be fair, I can remember several posters here who insisted the media/Atlanta fanbase response to the trade was overblown and offered the same justification as to why the trade wasn't bad from Arizona's point of view.
Braves1976
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I agree with you totally here smootness, emk418 is selling both Inciarte and Blair short IMO. I just hope the Braves don't do so as well as far Inciarte goes. That they almost traded him straight away to Houston before the season makes me concerned about that.
msstate7
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Maybe his hamstring will nag him till the trading deadline haha
Braves1976
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There is always going to be some that justify even the most worst trades. Shoot I remember being shocked at how many Braves fans at scout argued against my points against the Tex trade (first one) back in the day. However, I think most here were more than pleased with the return we got for Miller at the time. I wasn't on here that day or even that week to post as I had stopped focusing on the Braves after the Simmons trade. Then I heard about that trade with the D'Backs days after it happened and that struck my interest again. If not for it I'd probably waited till Spring Training to be interested.
Russ2dollas
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Inciarte looks like a great cf who is a high avg no pop guy vs rh and unplayable vs lh. Our hope is he keeps growing at the plate, esp vs lh
Blair most ppl say is a 3-4. Some like him more. That is super valuable.
Swanson looks like an above avg regular now with star potential. We win.
Problem is we are still one blockbuster away from being a real contender. So many of our position guys are super young
Blair most ppl say is a 3-4. Some like him more. That is super valuable.
Swanson looks like an above avg regular now with star potential. We win.
Problem is we are still one blockbuster away from being a real contender. So many of our position guys are super young
Depending on what we could have gotten he was worth trading immediately. The Astros have a ton of talent I would have liked to have traded him for this offseason. Inciarte isn't really someone I want in the lineup long term if Mallex makes it, and with the defense Mallex has shown so far he looks like he will (and Acuna is looking awesome so far and should be ready by sometime in 2018).
Braves1976
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Mallex making it or not shouldn't be a reason not to want Inciarte in the line-up, if you want Markakis over him you need to reconsider both on offense and defense along considering his likely decline. Also, the offer was Tucker and that isn't worth Inciarte. I am not high on either Tucker brother turning into anything special personally. But I agree everyone has a price and if someone overpays enough that's another story. But elite defensive players like Inciarte are usually underrated and you can probably get a similar return in a trade for someone like Markakis as you would him.
I don't know about Acuna being ready that soon either, but I do like him as a prospect a lot. We can always trade Inciarte then if he's ready.
Huh?
Braves1976
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Inciarte had a few great AB's vs lefties just before he got hurt. I think some are jumping the gun here acting like he cannot improve vs them when we've already seen signs of it in a small sample. Time will tell of course but I think he will somewhat.
The thing is, his struggles against lefties are themselves a small sample. People just point to the 150 PA last year and completely ignore the very good 140 PA he had against them in 2014. And his numbers against lefties in the minors were pretty good as well.
Braves1976
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Good point. It is crazy to me so many Braves fans sound like they're in such a hurry to trade him, be careful what you wish for is my warning.
Russ2dollas
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Look at is splits
Yes he's young and can get better. But so far the results are awful
Braves1976
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He did, he covered that in his response to me.
The Braves absolutely should not sell Inciarte short because of his slow start(injury related). My point has always been, the trade obviously was a haul for us and a fantastic deal. But that's mostly because of getting Swanson. Inciarte is a nice player but I said at the time of the trade that the Dbacks sold at peak value for him. I think he's a decent starting OF that ideally is more of a 4th OF that gets a good amount of playing time. I also like Aaron Blair, but I don't see him as anything more then a 4th type starter. Again, both pieces are fantastic to get in addition to Swanson....that's why we got a haul. But my bottom line is I think people here have way overvalued Inciarte and Blair.
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They'd be alot better if they just kept the pieces they had.
Swanson would be a big upgrade at SS.
Incierte in the outfield.
And Blair probably isnt much worse than what they've had.
Swanson makes the deal a huge win since he looks like the real deal, absolutely raking. I just dont know how long you can keep him down.
Swanson would be a big upgrade at SS.
Incierte in the outfield.
And Blair probably isnt much worse than what they've had.
Swanson makes the deal a huge win since he looks like the real deal, absolutely raking. I just dont know how long you can keep him down.
Dansby's hit a bit of a rough patch the last several games in AA, which is good. There's no rush, let him play through the slumps and get comfortable.
Russ2dollas
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Hope u r right. Bc he ain't hitting. Sss off injury. But not hitting
He had 8 AB pre-DL and has 25 AB post-DL. Yes, I'd say that's a SSS.