Shooting at Washington Navy Yard

this to chew on:

Every week, New York Magazine writer-at-large Frank Rich talks with contributor Eric Benson about the biggest stories in politics and culture. This week: Congress shrugs off a murderous rampage in D.C., Larry Summers proves he can count, and the GOP out-mavericks James Garner.

After Monday's slaughter at the Washington, D.C., Navy Yard, members of Congress made it very clear that they had no desire to touch the new third-rail of American politics, gun control. Since that's off the table at a federal level, is there any political step that can be taken — even a small, imperfect one — to stop mass shootings?
Essentially, no. Perhaps the best thing we can do is at least call out the problem for what it is: state-sponsored terrorism. The American people and their elected representatives allow our own homegrown equivalent of suicide bombers — suicide shooters — legal access to weapons with which they can mow down innocents almost anywhere they please. Bloomberg’s money can’t solve this (indeed his political contributions on behalf of gun-law reformers may have backfired) and neither can the blather of a thousand moralizing talking heads. So now, as always happens after these bloodbaths, the real problem is put on hold again and we are back to talking about side issues. Many are calling for keeping a closer watch on government contractors, for instance, but where were they when government contractors at Blackwater, et al, were wreaking havoc on civilians during the Iraq War? That horse is long out of the barn; we have an increasingly privatized government, cheered on by the same anti-government political party that is most in thrall to the NRA.

That old hobbyhorse of violent entertainment is also back for another run: Hosts at Fox & Friends at Fox News (Elizabeth Hasselbeck) and Morning Joe at MSNBC (Mika Brzezinski) are united in angrily decrying violent video games. No doubt this makes them feel righteous, but if they really believe this is the crux of the matter, and had guts, they’d start by publicly demanding that their own parent companies dump any and all media products trading in violence. Somehow I don’t think that’s going to happen. Nor are we going to get better mental-health treatment for psychopaths like Aaron Alexis if the opponents of Obamacare (or any national health-care alternative) have anything to say about it. But let’s do talk about it. I remain convinced that the issue of guns in American culture, as hard-wired to our national origins as slavery was, will take every bit as long to rectify as slavery, and can only happen if Americans want it to happen, which most of them don’t now. So let’s at least acknowledge the truth: This country is soft on domestic terrorism.
 
and this to chew on from above article: and, speaks to sturg's question from yesterday concerning drones.

This is the culmination of 3 decades of a nation that has wallowed in a warrior culture since 1980, the building blocks of which were laid in the 1950s. All else went by the wayside, especially bona fide quality of life - which relies heavily on calm not chaos, serenity and purpose, not killing. This is one of the things the rest of the world most fears about the U.S. and some despise us for it.

JFK nailed it, when corresponding with another war-weary old Navy friend in 1961, noting that the world would never be at peace until the conscientious objector was glorified as much as or more than the warrior. The U.S. has for more than a century been consumed with all the traits that always spell trouble for any species: braggadocio, nonstop hyper-violent confrontation fueled by testosterone. U.S. male youth have been intravenously fed this crap for more than 30 years, minus the education and moral guidance that make for a well-rounded, mature and kind soul - one that enjoys both emotional and mental health. So, in its place, we have self-absorbed tin soldiers and sociopathic criminals with the collective mental capacity of a tomato. We admire it and we reward it. And the U.S. has become a magnet for other defectives just like that.
 
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Just wondering, for those of you who want strict gun control - maybe even banning the lawful possession of fire arms & repeal of the 2nd Amendment - do you want that to apply to police officers and security forces?
 
Just wondering, for those of you who want strict gun control - maybe even banning the lawful possession of fire arms & repeal of the 2nd Amendment - do you want that to apply to police officers and security forces?

i would 100% be fine with that as well
 
haha, i would say MLK did as well

i would say South Africa did as well

just off the top of my head in recent history

but hey, i guess i need more examples than just that, right?
 
Didn't realize MLK overthrew tyrannical govt. Still wondering what this even has to do with the original topic of the thread.
i don't know if overthrow is the exact term i would go with but if i viewed how the gov't was during those days, i think i could argue it
 
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