Should Democrats Rethink Their Approach to Religious Voters

Religion and politics should not mix period. The Dems should just keep doing what they are doing. The anti-LGBT, the anti-environment folks are losing the young vote and the next wave is going to be even more open-minded and less likely to be one issue voters. The religious right is on the wrong side of history. They have reached the point in the Republican Party Barry Goldwater warned them off in the early '90s before he passed, that getting too tied to religion would fail the party.
 
VirginiaBrave said:
Religion and politics should not mix period. The Dems should just keep doing what they are doing. The anti-LGBT, the anti-environment folks are losing the young vote and the next wave is going to be even more open-minded and less likely to be one issue voters. The religious right is on the wrong side of history. They have reached the point in the Republican Party Barry Goldwater warned them off in the early '90s before he passed, that getting too tied to religion would fail the party.
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You mean politics and religions that aren't yours.

That worked really well with Hillary.
 
BedellBrave said:
You mean politics and religions that aren't yours.

That worked really well with Hillary.
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And you can't see the forest for the trees because it doesn't fit with a close minded world view. So y'all vote one or two issues and fail to see the big picture. I see the big picture. The world is grey it's just not right vs. wrong, with all due respect.
 
In the light of 2017
Why not that question read the other way around

" Shouldn't religious voters rethink their approach to Democrats?"

start with Lincoln's 2nd inaugural address and work backwards
 
considering the last time the "religious voters" had their way we were thrown into war in the mid east, unfunded war in the mid east, a collapse of our economic system and the legacy of intolerance around the globe.
And witness this time "religious voters" got their candidate.
Track record doesn't look too good.

What is lost in your conversation Bedell is the majority of Americans disagree with the path of the "religious voters"
Why would Democrats even consider pandering to "religious voters". Or frame their argument so as to attract that niche constituency ?
My thinking is they (Democrats) garner more votes by pointing out the bigotry,hypocrisy and my way or the hiway 18th century thinking that proves daily the growing irrelevance of the "religious voters" class..

Supposing Lincolns second inaugural as a model for (R) where does that stand next to Puerto Rico ,Flint,guns civil rights.

I don't understand why " religious voters " don't run away from (R) as fast as they can.
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Oh yeah, that
Where a man widely known to chase teenage age girls while in his 30's is preferrable to one that stands up for law but has a different political view on when life starts and the decisions young women make.
and, who gets to make decisions for said young women
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goldfly said:
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It's impossible for me to think of Trump supporters as Christians, no matter how they choose to identify themselves.

Me to they are white tribalists, and an abomination to any serious person who recognizes that there is a difference between Good and Evil. Trump is just the latest representation of the most negative and evil impulses of humanity.
 
VirginiaBrave said:
And you can't see the forest for the trees because it doesn't fit with a close minded world view. So y'all vote one or two issues and fail to see the big picture. I see the big picture. The world is grey it's just not right vs. wrong, with all due respect.
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Except for me being "wrong." Have I got that right? Funny how on the one hand you rule out right and wrong while on the other, and evidently without even realizing it, you propagate your own ethical system of right and wrong by which you judge others.

"I see the big picture." Dogmatically so I suppose.
 
It's sad to me, that there is such an unwillingness among many of you to consider the OP's author's (a Democrat) suggestion (be more like Obama in his approach to Religious voters, and less like Hillary), because what seems to me to be merely bigotry and a narrow-minded despising of anyone who doesn't profess faith in your Creed -- especially on the dogmas of abortion and sex.
 
BedellBrave said:
Yep. The Secularists's, John Lennonism - eschatology has some problems.
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I always find it amusing when leftists say at some point the next generation will make religion more of a minority but ignore birth rates between the two demographics. Religion is going no where and as the popular culture moves to a more godless society there will be even more who seek truth in a world of lies.
 
It's wish projection and sometime partly due to living in secularist bubbles. You look around and you see more "Nones" and you think well Utopia has got to be just down the road a tad bit more.
 
BedellBrave said:
Except for me being "wrong." Have I got that right? Funny how on the one hand you rule out right and wrong while on the other, and evidently without even realizing it, you propagate your own ethical system of right and wrong by which you judge others.

"I see the big picture." Dogmatically so I suppose.
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I don't judge anybody. Everybody is my equal and I treat them as they treat me. I am just tired of the right treat us as if we are somehow not decent people.
 
thethe said:
I always find it amusing when leftists say at some point the next generation will make religion more of a minority but ignore birth rates between the two demographics. Religion is going no where and as the popular culture moves to a more godless society there will be even more who seek truth in a world of lies.
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I credit the nature of pop culture with strengthening my faith tremendously. I was raised in the church but had moved away from it, still God loving and God fearing, but not actively living my beliefs. A "casual Christian" some call it. Our country's constant march against Christianity caused me to reevaluate a lot of things. I was weighed and found wanting. That isn't a good feeling, but it's led to a positive change that has made my life far more enjoyable than ever before.
 
VirginiaBrave said:
I don't judge anybody. Everybody is my equal and I treat them as they treat me. I am just tired of the right treat us as if we are somehow not decent people.
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Sure you do. You've already done so. Don't kid yourself. What's good for the goose is good for the gander they say.
 
The why "religious voters" should rethink their positions:

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