Should We Be Worried?
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As usual you missed the point very few said at the beginning of the year that this was a World Series or bust team we were HOPING to win the division and get out of the first round (nlds) it was not guaranteed. No matter if we win the World Series or not this has not been a bust year and frankly if you don't see this teams weakness you are blind. Our offense is hit or miss we're prone to long slumps and months of .500 play that is not a World Series favorite team. You guys are acting like we're World Series favorites and were not. That's not pAnicing that's living in the real world. Yah I'll be ecstatic if we win the World Series but its not likely. Like I said I'll be happy making it to the nlcs. Just because someone doesn't agree with you that doesn't give you the right to attack them so stop acting like a douche Iight
CyYoung31
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You have a very broad definition of the word 'attacking'. And nothing that you just posted had any relevance to my point. Every team that wins the World Series has to have a great run. Otherwise, they wouldn't win the World Series. That's an empty statement.
Dunit24
Awaiting a Promotion
This team is what it is. It looks red hot and suddenly goes on a cold streak. When they are on a cold streak, suddenly something clicks and we go on a hot streak. Our colds are colder than most and our hots are hotter than most. Lets just hope we catch fire in the postseason bc if we do, we win a title.
I do not think there is a "super" team in the playoff bound clubs that sticks out as being far superior to all the others. Every team has some flaw or two. The Braves have just as many pros and cons as the others. And as such, are just as likely to win the whole thing as any other club, IMO.
stpeteirish
Called Up to the Major Leagues
and don't look now but the Dodgers, everybody's trendy pick as the team to beat, are colder than we are. And the Cards, who are on our heels, have to play the Nats while we get the Cubs. We could still pull out home field.
Correction, Nats play the Marlins, then the Cards. Could be still in the WC race and give the Cards a few more losses.
Correction, Nats play the Marlins, then the Cards. Could be still in the WC race and give the Cards a few more losses.
stpeteirish
Called Up to the Major Leagues
No. I sleep. But when I wake up I start worrying again.
NYCBrave
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The Dodgers are 7-10 this month. I guess we can count them out of winning the world series, you need a hot September to win from what I've read here.
I don't know but that win last night was huge in my book. It pretty much slammed the freaking door on the Nats! It gave our guys some much need confidence and allowed them to get the whole collapse out of their head. I know they had it because everyone was starting to talk about it. Now the great news is, we get a young energetic shot of Jason Heyward back soon. That is exactly what this team needs right now. I am hearing great stuff about him and I think he will continue what was put on pause in New York in August. GO Braves and F the Nats!
My point is the world is not over and this season is not a bust if we don't win the World Series we are most likely going to top our win total from last year and accomplish more then most of us believed when the season started. All of this with 2 regulars hitting below .200 losing EOF, venters, huddy and Pena for the yeAr. You said World Series or bust That's what I was referring to. We can win the World Series if everything falls into place I'm not trying to be negative, actually trying to put a positive spin on things if we don't. So what do you believe is necessary for a long post season run ? Which is what I was getting at when I started the topic maybe panic was to strong a word
My point is the world is not over and this season is not a bust if we don't win the World Series we are most likely going to top our win total from last year and accomplish more then most of us believed when the season started. All of this with 2 regulars hitting below .200 losing EOF, venters, huddy and Pena for the yeAr. You said World Series or bust That's what I was referring to. We can win the World Series if everything falls into place I'm not trying to be negative, actually trying to put a positive spin on things if we don't. So what do you believe is necessary for a long post season run ? Which is what I was getting at when I started the topic maybe panic was to strong a word
Anyway, it's good to see so many people here from the scout.com site damn that place is a ghost town now.
Anyway, it's good to see so many people here from the scout.com site damn that place is a ghost town now.
My only fear in the playoffs is that Fredi over manages and pulls the hook on our starters too quick in the 5th or 6th inning.
NYCBrave
Well-known member
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like the trend with Fredi is that he doesn't usually tend to pull pitchers (unless they get bombed) until they reach around the 100 pitch mark (I know there was that Medlen start). I can see that trend continuing in the playoffs.
Yeah but Fredi's never managed a real postseason series before, just late September games and the one Wild Card game.
I could see with him being a rookie postseason series manager, he might get a little too ancy and go to the pen too early.
bravesnumberone
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Bobby went to the pen too late sometimes; then again he didn't have that many great bullpens to begin with.
Agreed.
That's why I think Fredi will go too quick... even if Avilan can't go, he's still going to put him in there anyways.
I feel Fredi may try to shorten the game by removing the starter earlier to use the bullpen, instead of giving our starter a chance to go 7 strong.
NYCBrave
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Here's a summation of why we lost every year in the playoffs since 2000:
2000 (Lost 3-0 in NLDS to Cardinals): Maddux, Glavine, and Millwood all got bombed. We had no shot.
2001 (Lost 4-1 in NLCS to D-Backs): Effectively, Randy Johnson owned us 2 games, and Schilling in another. Maddux got bombed on 3 days rest in Game 4 vs. Albie Lopez (!!!)
2002 (Lost 3-2 in NLDS to Giants): In his 2 starts, Glavine gave up 6 ER and 7 ER. We only got 1 run off of Russ Ortiz in Game 5. Bonds had 3 homers in the series.
2003 (Lost 3-2 in NLDS to Cubs): Wood shut us down in Game 1, Mark Prior complete game in Game 3, Wood shut us down again in Game 5.
2004 (Lost 3-2 in NLDS to Astros): Beltran hit 4 homers, Jaret Wright had 2 bad starts, John Thomson and Russ Ortiz did very poor. We couldn't touch that bum Brandon Backe in game 3.
2005 (Lost 3-1 in NLDS to Astros): Hudson got bombed in Game 1, Sosa gave up 3 in Game 3 and then Reitsma imploded, Game 4 was the fluke game where it went 18 innings and Ausmus hit the cheapest home run known to man over some random white line on the outfield wall.
2010: (Lost 3-1 in NLDS to Giants): Couldn't touch Lincecum in Game 1, miracle comeback in game 2 after Hanson did horrible, can't comment on game 3, game 4 bumgarner and lowe in a tight one that we lost.
What's the trend here? Our pitching has pretty much failed us every year, and when they've done ok, our hitting dissapeared.
2000 (Lost 3-0 in NLDS to Cardinals): Maddux, Glavine, and Millwood all got bombed. We had no shot.
2001 (Lost 4-1 in NLCS to D-Backs): Effectively, Randy Johnson owned us 2 games, and Schilling in another. Maddux got bombed on 3 days rest in Game 4 vs. Albie Lopez (!!!)
2002 (Lost 3-2 in NLDS to Giants): In his 2 starts, Glavine gave up 6 ER and 7 ER. We only got 1 run off of Russ Ortiz in Game 5. Bonds had 3 homers in the series.
2003 (Lost 3-2 in NLDS to Cubs): Wood shut us down in Game 1, Mark Prior complete game in Game 3, Wood shut us down again in Game 5.
2004 (Lost 3-2 in NLDS to Astros): Beltran hit 4 homers, Jaret Wright had 2 bad starts, John Thomson and Russ Ortiz did very poor. We couldn't touch that bum Brandon Backe in game 3.
2005 (Lost 3-1 in NLDS to Astros): Hudson got bombed in Game 1, Sosa gave up 3 in Game 3 and then Reitsma imploded, Game 4 was the fluke game where it went 18 innings and Ausmus hit the cheapest home run known to man over some random white line on the outfield wall.
2010: (Lost 3-1 in NLDS to Giants): Couldn't touch Lincecum in Game 1, miracle comeback in game 2 after Hanson did horrible, can't comment on game 3, game 4 bumgarner and lowe in a tight one that we lost.
What's the trend here? Our pitching has pretty much failed us every year, and when they've done ok, our hitting dissapeared.
bravesnumberone
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In a nutshell. I would also add about 2010, that the only run scored in game 1 was because an incorrect call was made at second base that later allowed the Giants run to score. Game 3, Kimbrel got squeezed, and Conrad made a costly error.
Nerfherders
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I would argue that our colds haven't even been that cold. Between the 14-2 start and the start of the 14-0 run, we went 43-43.