Snitker Bullpen Usage

I don't understand why Snit is so averse to giving Biddle a shot in a higher leverage situation. He has solid stuff and has performed well enough. I assume he'd do better if he got more consistent work.

And by higher leverage I mean using him instead of Freeman every once in awhile.
 
Ozzie Swanson said:
I don't understand why Snit is so averse to giving Biddle a shot in a higher leverage situation. He has solid stuff and has performed well enough. I assume he'd do better if he got more consistent work.

And by higher leverage I mean using him instead of Freeman every once in awhile.
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Yeah. Biddle should have gotten an inning or two tonight. It is a nit to pick with Snit.

Edit: He did get to face one hitter. A righty and he struck him out. Biddle has been amazing against righties. Continues the pattern of reverse splits he displayed in the minors. Usually when a lefty dominates righties it is due to a great change-up or screwball. That doesn't seem to be the case with Biddle.
 
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We had a little fun in last night's GDT over Snit bringing in Wisler to face Betts. I understand his concerns about using Winkler too much and generally think he's done a decent job managing the pen in recent weeks. Still, that one was a headscratcher.
 
Ozzie Swanson said:
I don't understand why Snit is so averse to giving Biddle a shot in a higher leverage situation. He has solid stuff and has performed well enough. I assume he'd do better if he got more consistent work.

And by higher leverage I mean using him instead of Freeman every once in awhile.
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To be fair, when you have a thoroughbred like wisler, you ride that stud when facing the best hitter in mlb
 
We are in decent shape going into tomorrow's game considering we only got 3 innings from Newcomb. Viz, Minter, Carle and Wisler didn't pitch. Presumably they will be the guys called upon tomorrow. Wisler is the "sacrificial lamb" in the event of a blowout or extra inning game.
 
Honestly the pen usage didn't really make sense and shows that Snit really needs at least 6 IP starts to be better. Biddle should've gone another inning, but Moylan did good. Then Moylan should not have faced Betts.

It may not have mattered, but maybe if you give a RH reliever a clean start, things go better.
 
Got through the double header without using Viz or Winkler. For tonight's game, Minter and Biddle probably not available except maybe to get one hitter. Unrealistic to expect more than 4 innings from Sanchez, which means we'll probably see Wisler in the middle innings. Sims will probably be the one sent down when Sanchez gets activated.
 
Sanchez went four, Wisler went four and Winkler went one last night. The pen is in good shape going into tonight's game and going into the gnats series. No one has been worked too hard. And no one is rusty from too little work. Which is a neat feat considering the double header and having to use a starter last night who wasn't fully stretched out.

Newcomb's short stint against the Red Sox put the pen in a bit of a hole, but Folty's 7 strong innings the next day bailed us out.
 
nsacpi said:
Sanchez went four, Wisler went four and Winkler went one last night. The pen is in good shape going into tonight's game and going into the gnats series. No one has been worked too hard. And no one is rusty from too little work. Which is a neat feat considering the double header and having to use a starter last night who wasn't fully stretched out.

Newcomb's short stint against the Red Sox put the pen in a bit of a hole, but Folty's 7 strong innings the next day bailed us out.
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We should really debate Folty versus Newcomb
 
bravesfanMatt said:
We should really debate Folty versus Newcomb
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I'm looking forward to both pitching in the gnats series. I know every game counts. But to me pitching against the Red Sox and gnats gives us a better idea of where those two stand than pitching against the Marlins.
 
nsacpi said:
I'm looking forward to both pitching in the gnats series. I know every game counts. But to me pitching against the Red Sox and gnats gives us a better idea of where those two stand than pitching against the Marlins.
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Lineups construction against matters and not just the teams.
 
thethe said:
Lineups construction against matters and not just the teams.
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Actually it is worth keeping in mind that Betts and Martinez asked the manager to not have to face Folty. I had forgotten about that. We'll probably see a similar request from Harper and Rendon.
 
Extra inning games are often when sub-optimal bullpen management can come back to bite a team. I actually agree with Snitker's reasoning in not using Winkler and Viz tonight. But he created the circumstances for that. Winkler and Viz both pitched Thursday. So Snit's decision to warm them both last night--Winkler in the 8th with Folty holding a 4-0 lead and Viz in the 9th with the same lead--is one of those subtle mistakes in bullpen management that 9 out of 10 times does not lead to any problems. But sometimes it leads to an issue the next day.
 
nsacpi said:
Extra inning games are often when sub-optimal bullpen management can come back to bite a team. I actually agree with Snitker's reasoning in not using Winkler and Viz tonight. But he created the circumstances for that. Winkler and Viz both pitched Thursday. So Snit's decision to warm them both last night--Winkler in the 8th with Folty holding a 4-0 lead and Viz in the 9th with the same lead--is one of those subtle mistakes in bullpen management that 9 out of 10 times does not lead to any problems. But sometimes it leads to an issue the next day.
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If Folty has run into trouble in either inning and no one was warming up folks would be slamming him the other way. But he probably should have had Winkler warm up in both innings. But that’s where baseballs development of the closer role hurts.
 
Southcack77 said:
If Folty has run into trouble in either inning and no one was warming up folks would be slamming him the other way. But he probably should have had Winkler warm up in both innings. But that’s where baseballs development of the closer role hurts.
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good point
 
I had a bigger problem with taking out McCarthy than the BP management.

84 pitches, and if you know Winkler/Viz arent pitching, why take him out.
 
Gohara activated. I assume the plan today is to get a combined 7-8 innings from Sanchez and Gohara. It would spare the pen a bit after yesterday's long game. On the positive side the pitch counts for Freeman, Minter, Carle and Moylan were low enough they should be available today.
 
The issue with the pen is there's always been a Wisler, Sims, Jackson, Socovolich type in there once they come in, games over.
 
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