Some Red State/Blue State Indicia
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nsacpi
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1353829221001404
iiwii
if you are a principled conservative or libertarian you should say that's part of your philosophy...a person's health is his or her responsibility and not the state's
i would call it death by libertarianism
and a principled libertarian would say that's part of the price of liberty instead of hiding behind "culture" or "obesity" or "the nearest hospital is so far away"
iiwii
if you are a principled conservative or libertarian you should say that's part of your philosophy...a person's health is his or her responsibility and not the state's
i would call it death by libertarianism
and a principled libertarian would say that's part of the price of liberty instead of hiding behind "culture" or "obesity" or "the nearest hospital is so far away"
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sturg33
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Didn't click the link... but agreed that hopefully people start hiring their own private fire department bc depending on the obese lesbian to save them is ****ing dumb
Hopefully we live in a state that doesn't rob us for a $750k water chief who has no competence and number one goal is equity
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
large numbers of them are retirees and older less well-educated workers
states like California and Massachusetts actually have positive numbers when it comes to net migration of highly educated young workers
an interesting thang happened to Florida in 2024...it continued to attract many migrants from other states but it's labor force appears to have shrunk
with respect to health there is one shortcoming of the studies I've looked at that suggests they may be understating state effects on longevity...the data are based upon which state the person died...i suspect people who lived most of their lives in red states do even worse than those who migrated at an older age...in other words the migrants are causing the studies to understate how short life is for people who live their entire lives in red states
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-blue...milies-are-migrating-to-red-and-purple-states
Ain't just old people.
Top 15 States that Have Lost the Most Families (Net Emigration Rate, 2021-2022)
New York (D) – 1.9% decline, net loss of 71,000
Alaska (R) – 1.2% decline, net loss of 2,000
California (D) – 1.2% decline, net loss of 92,000
Oregon (D) – 0.9% decline, net loss of 7,000
Washington (D) – 0.7% decline, net loss of 12,000
Massachusetts (D) – 0.7% decline, net loss of 10,000
Illinois (D) – 0.6% decline, net loss of 17,000
Hawaii (D) – 0.6% decline, net loss of 1,000
Louisiana (R) – 0.5% decline, net loss of 5,000
Colorado (D) – 0.5% decline, net loss of 6,000
Virginia (D) – 0.4% decline, net loss of 7,000
Wisconsin (P) – 0.3% decline, net loss of 4,000
Minnesota (D) – 0.3% decline, net loss of 4,000
Maryland (D) – 0.3% decline, net loss of 3,000
Utah (R) – 0.3% decline, net loss of 2,000
Ain't just old people.
Top 15 States that Have Lost the Most Families (Net Emigration Rate, 2021-2022)
New York (D) – 1.9% decline, net loss of 71,000
Alaska (R) – 1.2% decline, net loss of 2,000
California (D) – 1.2% decline, net loss of 92,000
Oregon (D) – 0.9% decline, net loss of 7,000
Washington (D) – 0.7% decline, net loss of 12,000
Massachusetts (D) – 0.7% decline, net loss of 10,000
Illinois (D) – 0.6% decline, net loss of 17,000
Hawaii (D) – 0.6% decline, net loss of 1,000
Louisiana (R) – 0.5% decline, net loss of 5,000
Colorado (D) – 0.5% decline, net loss of 6,000
Virginia (D) – 0.4% decline, net loss of 7,000
Wisconsin (P) – 0.3% decline, net loss of 4,000
Minnesota (D) – 0.3% decline, net loss of 4,000
Maryland (D) – 0.3% decline, net loss of 3,000
Utah (R) – 0.3% decline, net loss of 2,000
It’s fun to post general statistics not normalizing for class and race while also attributing economic success to things out in place over 20 years ago.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
It is an interesting thang. California lost population as you noted. But the number of people with a college degree increased by 2% in 2022 and the number of people with a graduate degree increased by 3%. And the last couple years have been even better in terms of the state attracting younger very well educated people from other states. And of course the Cal university system is a marvel with no equal in any other state. It churns out large numbers of newly minted graduates with the advanced technical skills the state's economy needs.
None of this is new. We saw this pattern pre-covid. Older less well educated workers left the state. Meanwhile, significant numbers of highly educated young workers have been coming in from other states and other countries. Covid interrupted this flow for a couple years, but it has resumed. Some of this appears to be a boomerang effect. Some of the same folks who left during and in the immediate aftermath of covid have changed their minds (and addresses).
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Confirmed. This is exactly what this is about.
Nice to be able to afford private security. Rest of the plebs have to deal with legalized crime
Tapate50
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It’s as predictable as the moon phases
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
And home of the rich and highly educated. And long-lived.
I do think the dynamic nature of the tech sector causes a version of Dutch Disease (not to be confused with Dutch Elm Disease), which contributes to the exodus of certain industries and some of the workers associated with those industries. But this is not necessarily a bad thang.
And it has made a policy choice (agree with it or not) to kill off certain industries. Los Angeles had a significant manufacturing sector as recently as the 1960s and 1970s. But the laws passed to deal with LA's notorious smog problems caused those industries to leave.
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