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It’s the same argument as gun control. 95% of welfare recipients commit zero fraud. Probably a higher percentage. It’s the programs!
 
nsacpi said:
As someone who at various points has been a Republican, independent and Democrat, I agree that no one should give their allegiance reflexively to any part.

As someone who supports a social safety net I believe that cases of fraud should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and that those cases should be examined carefully so we can find we to reduce fraud.
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And you will also proudly vote for the guy who oversaw the unprecedented fraud to be the VP of the country
 
acesfull86 said:
Except for the large scale fraud perpetrated by native whites that leaves thethe unbothered because they're native whites
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Oh yeah large scale - definitely the same magnitude and definitely in the same vein.
Maybe we should loom at percentage of population that is committing the fraud.

Whats next you’re going to tell me that more white peoples commit crime than black people in this country?

As usual just clueless of the actual issues.
 
sturg33 said:
And you will also proudly vote for the guy who oversaw the unprecedented fraud to be the VP of the country
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The key is to not let foreigners have access to our welfare system and install significant oversight when Dems are in control. Those are the markers of potential fraud.
 
thethe said:
The key is to not let foreigners have access to our welfare system and install significant oversight when Dems are in control. Those are the markers of potential fraud.
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Youre barking up the wrong tree on this one.

Any government system will be inefficient and corrupted by politicians who want to enrich themselves. Kill the programs, and the foreigners have no reason to come
 
thethe said:
Oh yeah large scale - definitely the same magnitude and definitely in the same vein.
Maybe we should loom at percentage of population that is committing the fraud.

Whats next you’re going to tell me that more white peoples commit crime than black people in this country?

As usual just clueless of the actual issues.
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What level of native white fraud would leave you bothered? It's not $10M, it's not $100M. Maybe there's no number at all.
 
sturg33 said:
Youre barking up the wrong tree on this one.

Any government system will be inefficient and corrupted by politicians who want to enrich themselves. Kill the programs, and the foreigners have no reason to come
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Trump and team are killing all programs for foreigners. Thats the issue that has to be dealt with and the correlation between criminal activity and democratic control.
 
All I know is any amount of fraud from foreigners is infinitely worse because they should have no access to the funds. It should be no shock to anyone with a brain that our whole welfare system escalated our bankruptcy once we opened the door to the third world. You of course see no such correlation.
acesfull86 said:
What level of native white fraud would leave you bothered? It's not $10M, it's not $100M. Maybe there's no number at all.
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thethe said:
Trump and team are killing all programs for foreigners. Thats the issue that has to be dealt with and the correlation between criminal activity and democratic control.
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If there were no welfare, snap benefits, free Healthcare, free school. Etc.

The foreigners who are here to leech would be gone overnight. They will stay in their own 3rd world cou try rather than be homeless in ours
 
sturg33 said:
If there were no welfare, snap benefits, free Healthcare, free school. Etc.

The foreigners who are here to leech would be gone overnight. They will stay in their own 3rd world cou try rather than be homeless in ours
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Many things you can do to make sure they have no access. That’s why we are seeing the self deportation figures and rent payments dropping.
 
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