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I'm shocked that it wasn't a white person committing this atrocity against Asian Americans.

Where is nsacpi to tell us that White Supremacy is the biggest issue in this country?

Moron
 
mqt said:
…if the claim here is that calling him Mr. Nash was to hide his race, or does this person just not know that this is common practice? I really hope it’s the latter.
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The point I was making by posting the second tweet, was how absurd it is the. yet again, a criminal was let go and a person has lost her life because of it.

Telling as usual, that you gloss over that
 
sturg33 said:
The point I was making by posting the second tweet, was how absurd it is the. yet again, a criminal was let go and a person has lost her life because of it.

Telling as usual, that you gloss over that
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Out of curiosity, would you have been okay if the defendant made, say, a $2 million bail and then did this? If so, we’re aligned. I’m perfectly happy with there being no option for bail for violent crimes if we eliminate all cash bail and fix our broken court system to prevent prosecutors from squeezing defendants stuck in jail to plead guilty. I otherwise see no concern over there being a cash bail or not.
 
mqt said:
Out of curiosity, would you have been okay if the defendant made, say, a $2 million bail and then did this? If so, we’re aligned. I’m perfectly happy with there being no option for bail for violent crimes if we eliminate all cash bail and fix our broken court system to prevent prosecutors from squeezing defendants stuck in jail to plead guilty. I otherwise see no concern over there being a cash bail or not.
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I think on multiple violent offenses it's time to not allow people to go

It continues to happen the blue cities and they continue to strike again
 
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sturg33 said:
I think on multiple violent offenses it's time to not allow people to go

It continues to happen the blue cities and they continue to strike again
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I agree, and I think a lot of other people on the Left likely would as well. I’m a huge, huge justice reform guy. We lock people up for too long for bad reasons, we extort innocent people through an unfair system, and we encourage recidivism through inhumane treatment and unjust post-prison experiences. All that said, some people just need to go away. We should do better once they’re there, but they still need to spend their time in the penalty box.
 
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I have wondered about replacing the death penalty with hard labor. Nothing that's of any economic benefit to the state, just brutally hard, pointless labor. Dig a hole. Now fill it back. Dig it again. Move this pile of rocks over there. Tomorrow you can put them back. Only available for the worst offenders with the most airtight convictions, but more of a deterrent than years of free food and cable TV while you serve a life sentence or wait out decades of appeals.
 
Jaw said:
I have wondered about replacing the death penalty with hard labor. Nothing that's of any economic benefit to the state, just brutally hard, pointless labor. Dig a hole. Now fill it back. Dig it again. Move this pile of rocks over there. Tomorrow you can put them back. Only available for the worst offenders with the most airtight convictions, but more of a deterrent than years of free food and cable TV while you serve a life sentence or wait out decades of appeals.
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I disagree. My opinion is ultimately that while I don’t want murderers to be living it up in luxury, that we ought to just treat all prisoners, regardless of how bad they are, with some basic human dignity, as it just feels morally unacceptable to kill or torture someone. The reality is that the deterrent can be whatever we want it to be, as it will never be effective. People committing these heinous acts are either unconcerned with the consequences, or have decided that what they want to do is worth almost literally any consequence. I’d prefer to be in a society where there isn’t a place for government-sanctioned atrocities.
 
mqt said:
I disagree. My opinion is ultimately that while I don’t want murderers to be living it up in luxury, that we ought to just treat all prisoners, regardless of how bad they are, with some basic human dignity, as it just feels morally unacceptable to kill or torture someone. The reality is that the deterrent can be whatever we want it to be, as it will never be effective. People committing these heinous acts are either unconcerned with the consequences, or have decided that what they want to do is worth almost literally any consequence. I’d prefer to be in a society where there isn’t a place for government-sanctioned atrocities.
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Do you think that a prison sentence sounds all that bad to someone barely scraping though? I agree with you about dignity, but maybe if it was more difficult than living on a full time menial job then people would change their risk -reward calculations.
 
Jaw said:
Do you think that a prison sentence sounds all that bad to someone barely scraping though? I agree with you about dignity, but maybe if it was more difficult than living on a full time menial job then people would change their risk -reward calculations.
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We’re talking about the worst of the worst here. I would dare you to find someone who lives somewhere without a death penalty that listed cheap housing as their murder motive. I can see it factoring into someone deciding to rob a store to get arrested, but it’s not likely to enter the calculus for these crimes.
 
mqt said:
We’re talking about the worst of the worst here. I would dare you to find someone who lives somewhere without a death penalty that listed cheap housing as their murder motive. I can see it factoring into someone deciding to rob a store to get arrested, but it’s not likely to enter the calculus for these crimes.
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The worst of the worst should be taken behind a barn and dealt with.
 
mqt said:
We’re talking about the worst of the worst here. I would dare you to find someone who lives somewhere without a death penalty that listed cheap housing as their murder motive. I can see it factoring into someone deciding to rob a store to get arrested, but it’s not likely to enter the calculus for these crimes.
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That's a good point.
 
Jaw said:
Beautiful. Hopefully this becomes a trend.

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It will be a key issue to tackle when we take back full control of this country.

We need to use governmental power to root out the poison that is shaping the minds of young people.
 
Jaw said:
Beautiful. Hopefully this becomes a trend.

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The lede is buried a bit down in her thread

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Do you really want the government to really tell schools what they can and cannot teach? SHouldn't that be the responsibility of the student body and the parents of said body to control that?
 
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