Some Red State/Blue State Indicia

You really go out of your way to say I said something I didn’t say

But congrats on the attempted new nickname for me I guess. Obviously showing how funny conservatives are with that lol
 
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You really go out of your way to say I said something I didn’t say

But congrats on the attempted new nickname for me I guess. Obviously showing how funny conservatives are with that lol
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Of course.

You've proudly proclaimed there are no empylty shelves because you can get your groceries.

There is no oppressions on non vaccinated people, because you happily comply

There is no crime issue in Seattle because you went to the fish market and didn't get assaulted

You're very predictable
 
The broken record tries to call other people predicable.

You aren’t a serious person and should be treated that way.

Your fear mongering of every topic is well noted.

Me saying that is somehow you computing every topic as the extreme the other way

as if nothing at all is happening. Which isn’t the case but you do you
 
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2790238

Disparities in health across the 50 states are growing, a trend that began in the 1990s.4 For example, in 1990, life expectancy in New York was lower than in Oklahoma, but the trajectories separated sharply in the 1990s and, by 2016, New York ranked third in life expectancy, whereas Oklahoma ranked 45th.2 By 2019, mortality rates at ages 25 to 64 years differed by a factor of 216% between the states with the highest mortality rate (565.1 per 100 000) and the lowest rate (261.9 per 100 000), up from 188% in 1999. The widening gap cannot be explained by changes in the racial and ethnic composition of states, because the same trend occurred within racial and ethnic groups. For example, among non-Hispanic White individuals, mortality rates at ages 25 to 64 years differed by a factor of 228% between the states with the highest mortality rate (571.7 per 100 000) and the lowest rate (250.2 per 100 000), up from 166% in 1999.5

Although the divergence in state health trajectories might reflect changes in demographic and socioeconomic characteristics, a more likely potential explanation is the growing polarization of public policies across states. States assumed increasing powers decades ago, when the Reagan administration in the 1980s and the US Congress in the 1990s promoted devolution, a policy aimed at shifting authorities and resources (eg, block grants) to the states.6

States with different political priorities and economic circumstances made diverse policy choices, widening the gap across the states in education, wages, taxes, social programs, corporate profits, wealth inequality, and infrastructure. Health outcomes changed as states took different approaches to Medicaid, workplace and product safety, the environment, tobacco control, food labeling, gun ownership, and needle exchange programs. These policies had predictable consequences. For example, states that raised cigarette taxes experienced fewer tobacco-related illnesses. Injury deaths increased in states that relaxed speed limits and motorcycle helmet laws.
 
States with the largest increases in life expectancy the last 40 years: NY (7.5 years), CA (6.6), NJ (6.6), MA (5.7), IL (5.7), MD (5.7), GA (5.4), CT (5.4) DE (5.3), NV (5.3), VT (5.3)

States with the smallest increases: WV (1.7), OK (2.1), KY (2.5), MS (2.8), AR (2.8), AL (2.9), NM (2.9), ND (3.0), KS (3.1), IA (3.3)
 
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I know you are a dinosaur and can only look back.

Looking forward, NY and California are ****holes. There is a reason everyone is leaving them

But I will happily admit that folks on the west coast lead a much much healthier lifestyle
 
sturg33 said:
I know you are a dinosaur and can only look back.

Looking forward, NY and California are ****holes. There is a reason everyone is leaving them

But I will happily admit that folks on the west coast lead a much much healthier lifestyle
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Hopefully the migrants will bring some of those healthier habits with them and also nudge public policy in directions that promote health and longevity.
 
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2790238

Disparities in health across the 50 states are growing, a trend that began in the 1990s.4 For example, in 1990, life expectancy in New York was lower than in Oklahoma, but the trajectories separated sharply in the 1990s and, by 2016, New York ranked third in life expectancy, whereas Oklahoma ranked 45th.2 By 2019, mortality rates at ages 25 to 64 years differed by a factor of 216% between the states with the highest mortality rate (565.1 per 100 000) and the lowest rate (261.9 per 100 000), up from 188% in 1999. The widening gap cannot be explained by changes in the racial and ethnic composition of states, because the same trend occurred within racial and ethnic groups. For example, among non-Hispanic White individuals, mortality rates at ages 25 to 64 years differed by a factor of 228% between the states with the highest mortality rate (571.7 per 100 000) and the lowest rate (250.2 per 100 000), up from 166% in 1999.5

Although the divergence in state health trajectories might reflect changes in demographic and socioeconomic characteristics, a more likely potential explanation is the growing polarization of public policies across states. States assumed increasing powers decades ago, when the Reagan administration in the 1980s and the US Congress in the 1990s promoted devolution, a policy aimed at shifting authorities and resources (eg, block grants) to the states.6

States with different political priorities and economic circumstances made diverse policy choices, widening the gap across the states in education, wages, taxes, social programs, corporate profits, wealth inequality, and infrastructure. Health outcomes changed as states took different approaches to Medicaid, workplace and product safety, the environment, tobacco control, food labeling, gun ownership, and needle exchange programs. These policies had predictable consequences. For example, states that raised cigarette taxes experienced fewer tobacco-related illnesses. Injury deaths increased in states that relaxed speed limits and motorcycle helmet laws.
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Not the best visualization but interesting data. In some ways the divergence in public health strategies in terms of covid and the resulting outcomes merely extends a divergence that has been building for several decades.

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How much does it sting that Florida, Texas, and Georgia all had lower death rates than the gold standards in New York and New Jersey - and they did it without forcing lockdowns and diapers on everyones faces!
 
2021 Excess Deaths (as % of normal)

Florida 21.4%
Georgia 25.3%
Texas 26.3%

NY 13.7%
NJ 8.0%
California 22.0%

Seems like some states made better adaptations in policy after the initial waves in 2020. Massachusetts stands out with 3.5% excess mortality in 2021.
 
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Interesting to see Freddie Freeman chime in on this discussion.

California, both northern and southern incarnations, is an extremely nice place to live and work. It has a NIMBY problem that results in a serious lack of affordable housing. But the people who can afford it love it.

My son had his first job in Atlanta. He started plotting his return to NorCal the day he set foot in Georgia. I tried to get him to keep an open mind about southern culture. But the allure of NorCal was too strong and he's now happy living and working in San Francisco.

Btw kudos to Georgia for being the lone red state (well maybe purple now) in the top 10 as far as doing well when it comes to increasing life expectancy of its residents. Heavy migration from blue states is probably part of the explanation. But someone has been doing something right as far as public health policy goes. Curious if any of the locals have thoughts on this.
 
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A police chief said yesterday that if you don't wish to be robbed, then you shouldn't wear nice jewelry

Third world country?

Of course not. It's los Angeles
 
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I hadn’t seen these developments before the passage of the bill, but it really takes a big bite out of the argument that the bill is just about stopping sex talk amongst children:

These interpretations are wrong. The bill does not prohibit instruction on sex, sexualization, or “sex-stuff,” but rather expicitly targets “sexual orientation” and “gender identity,” which are a separate set of concepts. This distinction is vital. For instance, there is nothing in the legislative text to prevent a teacher from describing to first graders the act of masturbation, human genitalia, or potentially even sexual intercourse. However, teachers might well be prohibited from reading a book about an LGBTQ+ character.

This is clearly the bill’s intent. How do we know? First, because its sponsors have told us so. Republican State Sen. Dennis Baxley, who sponsored the bill in the Florida senate, explicitly confirmed that HB 1557 was designed to keep assignments with details like “Sally has two moms or Johnny has two dads” out of the classroom. And second, because every time somebody offered alternative language, the bill’s supporters shot them down. For instance, one state senator proposed an amendment to replace the phrase “sexual orientation or gender identity” with “human sexuality or sexual activity.” Sen. Baxley rejected his proposal, explaining that such a change would “significantly gut” the bill’s intent.
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https://pen.org/these-4-florida-bills-censor-classroom-subjects-and-ideas/
 
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