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57Brave

57Brave

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Remember when some Braves Fans were all over Eric Cantor ?

Now, tell me (R) is not (T)bagg

talk about a circular firing squad. Anyone supporting Chavitz should watch his encounter with Cecile Richards - where he shows a Benghazi Style chart explaining PP and is immediatly shown for what he is. Just another NRFPT player
 
If Republicans can't elect a House leader, how can Americans trust them to govern ?

but hey, both sides are the same
 
57Brave said:
If Republicans can't elect a House leader, how can Americans trust them to govern ?

but hey, both sides are the same
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I think if they did elect one, you'd be quick to point out how incompetent the person is, and then mock the republicans ability to govern.

If they don't elect one, you mock them for being unable to govern.

Really no pleasing you - your partisanship is some of the worst I've ever seen. I don't think electing a house speaker is a small to-do that should happen overnight...

But yes, the Dems are better as they trot out the corrupt liar Hilary as their overwhelming favorite. We can't do better than that?
 
HRC is not a member of the House of Representatives nor is she to be anointed the 3rd spot in succession.
The Dems have not trotted out HRC, she is running to be elected. Watching even the titles on this forum you'd see that it isn't going as well as she'd like.

As far as whoever they do elect, I have already pointed out his in ability to even present a meaningful graph a 7th grader could see through in the interrogation of Cecile Richards.

As far as (R) being able to govern this is historically the most ineffective House in the history of House's

House Speakership has generally been a pretty easy sell - going back to say Daniel Webster.

You need to read more on how this is going before you rush off a furious defense.

Only time I remember a leadership vote in such disarray was the series of resignations during the Clinton Impeachment hearings. When Bob Livingston was discovered committing the same offenses he was pounding his sanctimonious fist at Pres Clinton.
That didn't go well either. That event gave us Dennis Hastert who is now under indictment for paying hush money covering up under age sex.
But hey, he was at least an effective legislator - as opposed to this people there now elected to govern under a mandate, not to govern.
Some times we live in
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...tert-protective-order-met-20150612-story.html

The Graph and LINK BELOW:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...shown-planned-parenthood-hearing-misleading-/

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I am fascinated by this turn of events. The best political drama in a while. Someone behind the scenes is pulling the strings here. It will be interesting to see who rises to power.
 
Krgrecw said:
He was having an affair with a fellow congresswoman.
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Yep.



In the hours before House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) abruptly withdrew his candidacy to be the next speaker of the House, he was sent an email from a conservative activist threatening to expose an alleged affair with a colleague. The subject line: “Kevin, why not resign like Bob Livingston?”



The email, sent just after 8 a.m. on Thursday, came from Steve Baer, a Chicago-based GOP donor known for mass-emailing conservative figures and Republican lawmakers. It was addressed to McCarthy and numerous others, including the personal account of Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-N.C.), who conservative media sites have suggested is tied romantically to McCarthy.

It really makes all that calm, business as usual smiling that was going on yesterday so much more interesting. These people really are diabolically dishonest.
 
Appeals to Paul Ryan to save the day.
But, Ryan is reluctant because he seeks higher office.

His ambition trumps taking the call of public service.
Quite a group (R)'s got there
 
There's now talk of Boehner staying on through the 2016 election. I heard a rumor the other day that retiring Minnesota Congressman John Kline may also be asked to take over if Boehner is intent on going through with his resignation. I think they are looking for a Hastert "type" in both the short and long term. During my career in MN, I've seen a lot of different types of caucus leaders. Some set the tone and follow through and others are more process-oriented. The problem that the rump caucus of the Republicans have is that they don't have a majority to set the tone, so they are forced to disrupt the process to meet their ends (and their internal caucus rules appear to allow that). That prevents any pragmatic process-oriented type from succeeding in the Speaker's chair.

As a Dem, I actually feel a bit sorry for Boehner. He's a conservative that I don't agree with on a lot of issues, but he understood that compromise is necessary to keep the train on the tracks and he was thwarted by a bunch of folks who simply see villains everywhere as an excuse to bring everything to a screeching halt.
 
Since I actually saw Ryan in person and shook hands with him and one of my managers have a picture with him. He is smooth, but make no mistake, don't get between him and his family. Unlike Democrats he take stuff seriously and not political expedient which Democraps are really good at. They only want power to control government and people and Ryan is a type of, you figure it out between yourselves type and don't give me that political BS. Democrats don't like his no nonsense type of governing. They want someone who is wishy-washy they can control and he is not about that.

But I would not be surprise he declines when they don't do what he wants. He is a person that is willing to work with the other side as long as they ditch the control part of their politicking.
 
Curious to see if Ryan proceeds. His candidacy kind of subverts some of the points in my earlier post, but we have yet to see what the rump group in the Republicans wants to do. I heard a quote from North Carolina Congressman Mark Meadows on the radio this morning and he talks about the need for the new Speaker to "listen to every member." I thought, "What?" Does he think that every measure going forward has to have unanimous support from the Republican caucus before it can proceed? I'm still not understanding the breadth of the issue and what the rump caucus seems to want. No one gets everything they want in life and that goes for members of Congress as well.
 
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