Spring Training 2015
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zbhargrove
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He profiled as a pretty good hitter in the minors and flashed it in the majors. Which is exactly what I said. 49 games is a flash... To think a guy who has had hitting success cannot improve at age 25 is short sighted. And to call a kid who hit 17 homers in a year a singles hitter is a bit giles over the top as well.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Perez and EY Jr. will both likely make the team at this point, but it seems like Perez is playing more for back-up CFer (or someone to start in CF vs lefties) given the way EY Jr. has been talked up from the start.
That said, it is about time Fredi let Perez lead off rather than batting him at the bottom of the line-up.
Who called him a singles hitter?
Who profiled him as a good hitter in the minors? All reports were he has decent bad speed but bad mechanics (long swing) and swings too much.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
Simmons had a .617 OPS last year.
I don't think it's unreasonable at all for him to put up a .675 season. That alone would be a big step up for his value.
He's not ever going to be a high average, 15 homer guy. That would make him an elite player. But he could definitely improve a good bit from last year.
I don't think it's unreasonable at all for him to put up a .675 season. That alone would be a big step up for his value.
He's not ever going to be a high average, 15 homer guy. That would make him an elite player. But he could definitely improve a good bit from last year.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
I like Peterson, I am not sure how good he'll hit yet but I like the patience I've seen from him so far. I don't think he'll have as good of contact skills as either Prado or La Stella, but he should be much better defensively than La Stella and similar to Prado in that regard (and might prove good defensively most anywhere like Prado too, including OF). Peterson also seems to be a solid base runner who reads plays well. Plus he has had success stealing bases with "average or so speed" too. It remains to be seen how much of a stolen base threat he'll be in the Majors. But it is nice that he can steal some bases for us at least occasionally too.
If Peterson can hit anywhere near his minor league numbers he'll make the Justin Upton trade look a lot better. But even if he doesn't his versatility could make him someone similar in value to what Omar Infante was for us years back.
MadduxFanII
Swallowed by Mark Bowman
I think one of the big issues with Andrelton is that no one really knows what kind of hitter he can or should be, and that includes Andrelton himself. He's not some tiny little slap-hitting defensive whiz- he's got a legit frame. He can make contact and run a bit, which makes everyone think he should be a slap hitter, but he's also flashed legitimate pop, and it's that which actually gave us some reason to think he might be a contributor at the plate- look at the extra base hits (especially triples) in 2013. I'm reluctant to say he should give up on that entirely.
The other side of it is that "contact" is kind of a mixed blessing with runners on base when you're a right-handed groundball/line drive hitter without notably good speed, as we saw with Simmons and Chris Johnson last year. Especially when you add in a lack of discipline and the weak contact that comes from putting off-the-plate pitches in play.
So you've got a guy with a number of intriguing traits, many of which are sort of contradictory. So there's no real sense of what they add up to or even what they should add up to.
The other side of it is that "contact" is kind of a mixed blessing with runners on base when you're a right-handed groundball/line drive hitter without notably good speed, as we saw with Simmons and Chris Johnson last year. Especially when you add in a lack of discipline and the weak contact that comes from putting off-the-plate pitches in play.
So you've got a guy with a number of intriguing traits, many of which are sort of contradictory. So there's no real sense of what they add up to or even what they should add up to.
JohnAdcox
Brian Jordan's New BFF
Truly? I don’t think that a .270+/15 impossible. Not likely, granted, but not impossible. I expect improvement pretty much everywhere but walks. There, I admit, I’ve pretty much given up.
JohnAdcox
Brian Jordan's New BFF
Or third base.
Simmons is an elite athlete with great baseball IQ. He got into some really bad habits last year. He is still very young. The power he showed at 23 was much earlier than power that often comes at 25-28. It wouldn't surprise me if he showed significant improvement offensively this year. I honestly expect a .730 or better OPS and would be more suprised by a sub .700 than .750 plus.
If I am wrong, Gilesfan can rub my nose in it, since I'll already be bummed, and it won't make it any worse.
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Sure, I liked him at both second and third defensively last year (and I recall him making some highlight reel plays at both positions). Which isn't surprising given his arm and that he came up a shortstop. I was just adding that he seems athletic enough that OF shouldn't be an issue either with the reps, etc.
I don't care to rub your nose in it.
Best case is probably around .275/.330/.415, which would make him an elite player.
However, it's not often for a player to just turn it completely around in 1 year. I would expect .260/.305/.375
Braves1976
It's OVER 5,000!
Thankfully Simmons combines the lack of walks with some great contact skills unlike players like Chris Johnson. Plus Simmons is so great on defense we can play a statue at third (yes, I am thinking of CJ again) and not be hurt as bad as other teams.
Julio3000
<B>A Chip Off the Old Rock</B>
Anyone have any thoughts on Almonte?