KB21
Where's My Cup of Coffee?
I agree with Jim Callis on this. I think his ETA is probably mid 2018 or the start of 2019.
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I agree with Jim Callis on this. I think his ETA is probably mid 2018 or the start of 2019.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
They need to show him to every pitcher holding out for more money. Say.. see what can happen!!!
Senior signs would be great targets late. Another angle could be someone from one of the service academies - don't forget we took Stephen Moore in the 10th Round last June. IIRC, he signed for ~ $10,000.
Hopefully someone who makes us all collectively scratch our heads and ask who?
bravos4evr
Still Playing the Waiting Game
If the rumors of Puk at #1 are true and Lewis at #2 then that leaves the Braves with a choice of "best player available " - Groome Best bat available - probably Moniak but could be Ray or Rutheford depending on how you swing, best signable way below slot - like say Senzel or anyone in between. It's interesting how much things can change if only one player is available after the first two picks.
rico43
<B>Director of Minor League Reports</B>
So, who are we taking with this 76th pick?
Hopefully someone who makes us all collectively scratch our heads and ask who?
Pay notice to those who are saying that this pick specifically doesn't matter -- it's the slot money that will allow a bigger reach at 40 or 44. I agree with those who say 76 figures to be a cheap senior.
Unless my math is wrong, we are about $620k from having the most slot money of any team in the draft. We are currently third, about $100k behind the Phillies.
All of the tradable picks have slot values over $620k, so we're one more pick trade away from being able to have the most money in the draft.
All of the tradable picks have slot values over $620k, so we're one more pick trade away from being able to have the most money in the draft.
I've been looking at the slot values this morning. Say we draft a senior at 76 and sign him for $100k. Then let's pretend we sign someone for $5 million with the third pick, which would save us $1.5 million.
Both of those situations seem like realistic scenarios. That extra $2.2 million can be split a few ways at 40 and 44. I like the idea of pouring it all into the 40th pick, which has a slot value of $1.6 million. Then we could draft and sign someone for up to $3.8 million, and that amount is higher than every pick except the top six in the draft.
That's valuable and would normally work, but the Cardinals, Nationals and Padres would probably complicate that scenario quite a bit. Those teams have $4.3 million (Padres), $5.9 million (Cardinals) and $4.1 million (Nationals) within their first-round picks alone. Still interesting to look at.
Both of those situations seem like realistic scenarios. That extra $2.2 million can be split a few ways at 40 and 44. I like the idea of pouring it all into the 40th pick, which has a slot value of $1.6 million. Then we could draft and sign someone for up to $3.8 million, and that amount is higher than every pick except the top six in the draft.
That's valuable and would normally work, but the Cardinals, Nationals and Padres would probably complicate that scenario quite a bit. Those teams have $4.3 million (Padres), $5.9 million (Cardinals) and $4.1 million (Nationals) within their first-round picks alone. Still interesting to look at.
If you factor in the 5% we can go over without incurring draft pick forfeiture penalties, I've got our number at $13,885,305 after adding the #76 pick ($13,224,100 plus 5%). If we offered slot to #44, $750,000 each to #76 and #80, slot to #109, $315,000 to #139, #150,000 to #169, and $100,000 each to our 7th-10th Round picks that would leave $5 million for the #3 pick and $4,513,805 to spend at #40. (Might double-check my math since I figured those numbers in a hurry.)
How awesome would it be to get BOTH Lewis and Moniak?
But this is still likely only possible if teams at 4-6 don't want Moniak, and the Rockies have apparently been high on him. The reason the Astros were able to get Cameron is because he was demanding more than anyone was willing to spend on him after his stock slipped. I'm not sure that's an option with Moniak.
KB21
Where's My Cup of Coffee?
IMO, there are three candidates that the Braves could try to manufacture a draft slip: Josh Lowe, Carter Kieboom, and Will Benson. All three of these guys are rated anywhere between 15-30 by most services, however, the Braves may be higher on them than everyone else is. Similar to Austin Riley last year. I could see Roy Clark and Brian Bridges telling these guys that they can give him a big bonus at pick 40/44 and to hold their ground with other teams. Of course, you have to hope that the other teams with big bonus money don't do the same thing. Them being local prospects could be a significant advantage.
Roy Clark has done this before. Jeff Francoeur told everyone that he was going to play football at Clemson.
yeezus
It's OVER 5,000!
and in hindsight, I wish he did.
Not suggesting any of that is a "given" - simply following along with the scenario CJ9 was discussing. If we somehow could get a combination of Lewis and Moniak/Rutherford/Ray for that $9,513,805 there's still even an outside chance that you could land a Logan Shore/Kieboom/Sean Murphy (and afford them) at #44. You'd obviously have to go cheap in the later rounds, but if you're looking to add high-ceiling talent, why not? Pair them with Maitan and the international signings and another high-ceiling arm in the First Round next year and you've REALLY filled the system out.
bravescountry
Arizona Fall Leaguer
Right, I was saying we are about $100k behind the Phillies for second. I should've made that more clear.
KB21
Where's My Cup of Coffee?
The Braves very rarely follow this board, but here is Baseball America's top 500 (300 at the moment).
Notable rankings:
#2 -- Riley Pint, RHP, St Thomas Aquinas HS, Overland Park, KS
#3 -- Jason Groome, LHP, Barnegat HS, NJ
#4 -- Kyle Lewis, OF, Mercer
#5 -- Mickey Moniak, OF, La Costa Canyon HS, Carlsbad, CA
#17 -- Josh Lowe, 3B, Pope HS, Marietta GA
#30 -- Will Benson, OF, The Westminster Schools, Atlanta, GA
#44 -- Carter Kieboom, 3B/SS, Walton HS, Marietta, GA
Notable rankings:
#2 -- Riley Pint, RHP, St Thomas Aquinas HS, Overland Park, KS
#3 -- Jason Groome, LHP, Barnegat HS, NJ
#4 -- Kyle Lewis, OF, Mercer
#5 -- Mickey Moniak, OF, La Costa Canyon HS, Carlsbad, CA
#17 -- Josh Lowe, 3B, Pope HS, Marietta GA
#30 -- Will Benson, OF, The Westminster Schools, Atlanta, GA
#44 -- Carter Kieboom, 3B/SS, Walton HS, Marietta, GA
Puk is #1 I assume?
Russ2dollas
10 yr, $185 million Extension
didn't we do all of this money stuff last year and the Braves just picked it strait? They went BPA on their board so there were some surprises with Riley and Sorka...but I don't think they did any games.
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