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CJ9 said:
I know the stats are nice and everyone likes him in this thread, but I haven't seen a single draft analyst project him as a top-three pick. I'm not opposed to taking him, but I think some of the love in this thread has gotten a little over the top.
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Probably because he's late to the sport and this is the first year he's put it all together? I guarantee if he keeps up the pace he will move up quite a bit of analyst boards.
 
CJ9 said:
I know the stats are nice and everyone likes him in this thread, but I haven't seen a single draft analyst project him as a top-three pick. I'm not opposed to taking him, but I think some of the love in this thread has gotten a little over the top.
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We'll see what happens. I understand the skepticism around him, but I'm all in.
 
smootness said:
We'll see what happens. I understand the skepticism around him, but I'm all in.
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it is too early to move people up too drastically in a mock draft.. Lewis is still being held back because of concerns from last year. As the season moves along and if he continues to put up numbers even close to what he is doing right now, he will move up and move up very high..
 
smootness said:
He's got a gorgeous swing, I'd be ok taking him.

But for the life of me, I will never understand the Buddy Reed hype. The guy must be better than freaking Andruw defensively.
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That swing is awesome. He could pose for the MLB logo with that.
 
Hudson2 said:
From today's Keith Law Chat

Pig Bodine:*

BA mock draft has Riley Pint to Braves….would he be best player available at #3, or do you think they go college bat like Ray if available?

Klaw:*

I don’t do mocks this early for this very reason – you can’t base it on any actual insight on teams and preferences. I don’t think there’s any chance they take a very high-risk high school arm at 3, for example.

Mike:*

Keith … If not Groome at 1.1, then who do the Phillies settle for ?

Klaw:*

Your mistake is saying “settle.” Why would you assume Groome is the top prospect when so many folks, myself included, believe that this class lacks a clear 1-1 guy? I’d take Corey Ray there right now, although I think Blake Rutherford, Delvin Perez, and perhaps even Braxton Garrett could make cases to go that high.

Matt:*

I know you firmly believe the Phillies won’t take groome at one, but why? I’ve seen plenty of credible people post mock drafts saying it will happen. Why is your opinion so strong that they won’t ?

Klaw:*

Because I base my opinions on industry gossip and knowledge of team strategies and preferences. This is why I wait to do mocks – until then, most of what I know is negative (“We won’t take Joey Bagodonuts there, no shot”) and not enough is positive.

If Groome does make it to the braves at 3, I really hope they pick him.
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Still not a huge fan of Law, but this has kinda been my point all along. It's simply too early just yet - teams haven't even seen everyone they're even considering in a lot of cases, and definitely haven't seen them enough to have made a decision at this point.

There are several good options at #3 and we're going to get a premium talent, I'd just want to see as much as possible from everyone before I started leaning towards a particular player - there will be several more hot streaks (as well as slumps) between now and June.
 
The only thing I know is that we're going to get a premium talent at 3, so that's awesome. Truthfully, I would be ok with any of the following:

Groome
Ray
Lewis
Rutherford
Perez

And I could talk myself into liking a Senzel or Pint pick. I still don't think we're going with a HSer, though, so really, I just hope we don't take a college pitcher.
 
And I'm not going to lie, the more I watch that Rutherford video, the more I become ok with taking him. He would probably rake from day one if he went to college, so why not?
 
I'm bullish on Blake Rutherford and also Mickey Moniak as well. I really like the potential of Moniak as a top of the order bat with good contact skills, speed, and plus power potential.

It would not take much to talk me into Riley Pint either. Pitchers are a risk, but if you don't have enough of them, you are up a creek without a paddle.

I usually always prefer the rawness and potential of a high school prospect over a college prospect. I'm studying Corey Ray some to see if he is worth the pick. I do have a concern about him not playing CF for Louisville, because his value comes as a CF with speed and average pop. I think at this point I like Kyle Lewis better, but that could change.

I think right now, I'd look at Ray, Lewis, and Rutherford with Pint and Moniak as fall back options. I think Groome and Puk/Senzel go top 2, but I'm not as high on Senzel as most are.

Smootness will shoot me, but at 40, I'd like to see the Braves consider Walker Robbins.
 
smootness said:
He's got a gorgeous swing, I'd be ok taking him.

But for the life of me, I will never understand the Buddy Reed hype. The guy must be better than freaking Andruw defensively.
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I've watched a large majority of Reed's games as a Florida fan, and I'm with you. I get why he's seen as a first rounder because of the upside but not in the top 10.

He has everything but the hit tool right now. Defense is elite, speed is really impressive and his arm might actually be his best tool. He does have good power in BP, but I wish it would translate more to games.

The hit tool is what makes him so questionable to me. I hate his swing from both sides of the plate. He is really raw and was a three-sport athlete before college, so if a team takes him early, they're betting on that raw ability and him figuring it out. But there's absolutely no reason for us to be the team that takes him unless something crazy happens and he falls to 40. Even then I wouldn't love it.
 
smootness said:
The only thing I know is that we're going to get a premium talent at 3, so that's awesome. Truthfully, I would be ok with any of the following:

Groome

Ray

Lewis

Rutherford

Perez

And I could talk myself into liking a Senzel or Pint pick. I still don't think we're going with a HSer, though, so really, I just hope we don't take a college pitcher.
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Completely agreed. College pitching seems to be only area that lacks a true elite talent.

Elite HS arms include Groome and Pint. Elite HS bats include Rutherford and Perez. Elite college bats include Lewis and Ray (I don't get the hype on Senzel and Reed honestly).

The best college arms are Puk and Hansen, and both have huge questions about control and/or injury. No thanks to that type of player at #3.

If I had to rank the guys I want to see the Braves get it would go:

1. Groome (best pure talent in the draft)

2. Lewis (RHed power bat this organization needs)

3. Rutherford (highest upside prep bat)

I only need to list my top 3 because the Braves pick 3rd. I left Ray out because a college junior with platoon problems is more likely than not to have those platoon problems persist, and maybe even get worse, as they progress through the professional ranks and face LHed pitchers with even better stuff and control. I don't get the hype of Reed or Senzel, and I don't know enough about Perez (other than he is a SS where the Braves already have Swanson and Albies) to say either way.
 
Enscheff said:
Completely agreed. College pitching seems to be only area that lacks a true elite talent.

Elite HS arms include Groome and Pint. Elite HS bats include Rutherford and Perez. Elite college bats include Lewis and Ray (I don't get the hype on Senzel and Reed honestly).

The best college arms are Puk and Hansen, and both have huge questions about control and/or injury. No thanks to that type of player at #3.

If I had to rank the guys I want to see the Braves get it would go:

1. Groome (best pure talent in the draft)
2. Lewis (RHed power bat this organization needs)
3. Rutherford (highest upside prep bat)

I only need to list my top 3 because the Braves pick 3rd. I left Ray out because a college junior with platoon problems is more likely than not to have those platoon problems persist, and maybe even get worse, as they progress through the professional ranks and face LHed pitchers with even better stuff and control. I don't get the hype of Reed or Senzel, and I don't know enough about Perez (other than he is a SS where the Braves already have Swanson and Albies) to say either way.
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I'm with you on the top 3 rankings. I also don't get the hype around Reed and Senzel though I do understand Senzel more than Reed. Senzel has a very high likelihood of being an excellent hitter though probably lacks the ceiling of a superstar and plays a premium position. Still, he'd be well behind Rutherford.
 
Couldn't agree more on your top 3 rankings. Mine would be in the same order. And good thing is we can get one of those 3. Rutherford just has this swagger about him I like and I think he'll hit well enough to play a corner.
 
Dakota Hudson went 9 innings against Ole Miss tonight. Struck out 11 and walked 0. He extended his streak to 30+ consecutive innings without giving up an earned run.

Right now, IMO, AJ Puk and Dakota Hudson are the top two college arms available in the draft. Hudson is a stud!!
 
KB21 said:
Dakota Hudson went 9 innings against Ole Miss tonight. Struck out 11 and walked 0. He extended his streak to 30+ consecutive innings without giving up an earned run.

Right now, IMO, AJ Puk and Dakota Hudson are the top two college arms available in the draft. Hudson is a stud!!
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Hudson has been incredible so far this year and is legitimately putting himself in the conversation near the top of the draft.

And yes, if the Braves draft State's best committed hitter for the 2nd straight year, I'll lose my mind...unless Robbins debuts as well as Riley did, in which case I'll figure out a way to live with it.
 
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