State of the braves

zbhargrove said:
Dumping Sale who is still an ace at a bargain deal would be stupid when we will need starting pitching lol. Most of his old injuries (while many) were of the flukey nature and his velocity is right where it has always been.
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Who said anything about dumping Sale?? Lol…
The Braves don’t have to trade him. But they have to legitimately listen to offers. And pull the trigger if they get blown away.

If the Braves had a top-5 farm with a bunch of talented but expendable prospects, we wouldn’t have this discussion. Since they don’t, Sale is one of the few truly valuable trade pieces they have that doesn’t factor into the long-term plans due to his age.
I wonder what other options you see to make sure we don‘t look back a year from now and ask ourselves why a Profar-type was again the most significant addition to the roster.
 
Teams in their contention window do not deal away cy young caliber pitchers unless they run a $100M payroll like the rays. Even the rays likely wouldn’t trade away Sale if they were projected for ~90 wins. It simply doesn’t happen because it’s a terrible idea.

The only reason it’s remotely possible to trade away Murphy is the presence of Baldwin.

AA isn’t trading Sale, and he probably isn’t trading Murphy. What AA should be doing is looking to add major pieces via FA now that the tax is reset. Blow the budget to close out the window.
 
Enscheff said:
Teams in their contention window do not deal away cy young caliber pitchers unless they run a $100M payroll like the rays. Even the rays likely wouldn’t trade away Sale if they were projected for ~90 wins. It simply doesn’t happen because it’s a terrible idea.

The only reason it’s remotely possible to trade away Murphy is the presence of Baldwin.

AA isn’t trading Sale, and he probably isn’t trading Murphy. What AA should be doing is looking to add major pieces via FA now that the tax is reset. Blow the budget to close out the window.
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The 22 and 23 teams obviously shouldn’t and wouldn’t. The 2025 Braves are a fringe playoff candidate if things break right the rest of the way. They are a contender by definition only…realistically, they have no shot of winning any hardware. There’s simply too many holes in the roster. And yes, I remember 2021. But hope is not a strategy.
 
Strike3urout said:
The 22 and 23 teams obviously shouldn’t and wouldn’t. The 2025 Braves are a fringe playoff candidate if things break right the rest of the way. They are a contender by definition only…realistically, they have no shot of winning any hardware. There’s simply too many holes in the roster. And yes, I remember 2021. But hope is not a strategy.
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So by trading Sale you have to replace him in a few months in FA at a lot more than he's making and it'll open another huge hole on the roster. We already need 2 good SP in FA that'll make it even tougher. It wouldn't be worth the prospects you got in the deal bc with Sales injury history and age he's more valuable to us than he is another team.
 
Strike3urout said:
Who said anything about dumping Sale?? Lol…
The Braves don’t have to trade him. But they have to legitimately listen to offers. And pull the trigger if they get blown away.

If the Braves had a top-5 farm with a bunch of talented but expendable prospects, we wouldn’t have this discussion. Since they don’t, Sale is one of the few truly valuable trade pieces they have that doesn’t factor into the long-term plans due to his age.
I wonder what other options you see to make sure we don‘t look back a year from now and ask ourselves why a Profar-type was again the most significant addition to the roster
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It would be retarded to trade a top 5-10 ace in the game on a bargain deal on a team still in their window which the Braves still clearly are. I don’t know what else to tell you. It ain’t happening and it shouldn’t.
 
Hudson2 said:
So by trading Sale you have to replace him in a few months in FA at a lot more than he's making and it'll open another huge hole on the roster. We already need 2 good SP in FA that'll make it even tougher. It wouldn't be worth the prospects you got in the deal bc with Sales injury history and age he's more valuable to us than he is another team.
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Sigh…you realize they‘d be getting players in return? Obviously, those would have to be absolute impact player to make it worthwhile. Not all prospects are 18 year olds in A ball. If trading Sale allows them to fill 2-3 holes, I say go for it. Otherwise, hang on to him.
You don’t need to replace Sale in FA if the players you get in return mean the Braves also won‘t have to run the likes of Elder/Verdugo/White out there anymore.
 
zbhargrove said:
It would be retarded to trade a top 5-10 ace in the game on a bargain deal on a team still in their window which the Braves still clearly are. I don’t know what else to tell you. It ain’t happening and it shouldn’t.
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The Braves have more holes to fill than money to spend. So they will need to get creative on some deals. I‘m still not clear what other pieces you see that are valuable to teams that the Braves would be willing to part with.
 
I guess it was bc he was only hitting 92 with his FB? Otherwise I dunno why you call him up to fly him out there and then cut him. Wasn’t a clean inning but it was a scoreless one at least.
 
Twit said something to the effect when asked about Kimbrell that it was something and that he was real lucky. But they wanted to get him out there.
 
Odd move. Keep him in the minors, fly him out to SF, and cut him after a scoreless inning?? No one could have been expecting the old Kimbrel.

And they‘re now also a reliever short? Or am I misreading this.
 
Wiley said it was CK's son's birthday yesterday.

It's likely he wanted to let his son see him pitch once and call it a career. He's throwing low 90's now, barely slower than Iglesias.

Probably wants to retire a brave.
 
The Tariff King said:
Wiley said it was CK's son's birthday yesterday.

It's likely he wanted to let his son see him pitch once and call it a career. He's throwing low 90's now, barely slower than Iglesias.

Probably wants to retire a brave.
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Wouldn't it be a retirement designation? May not even be a thing during season in mlb, not sure. If it's retirement, the DFA seems a bad way to send him off
 
msstate7 said:
Wouldn't it be a retirement designation? May not even be a thing during season in mlb, not sure. If it's retirement, the DFA seems a bad way to send him off
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And if this is true, damn... the braves are in a free fall, and they do charity send off. I say no way, but this leadership is dumb.
 
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