Suntrust Park Begins To Take Shape

Horsehide Harry said:
Third, the past actions of Braves senior management make sense if you view them in terms of the above.
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One situation I've wondered about was in 2014 when Wren went to McGuirk for permission to sign Santana. I remember Wren praising the organization for allowing him to go beyond the bugdet. But I also remember Schuerholz making some comments about the need to bring the numbers back into line. I don't think that happened in part because the team collapsed and there was no playoff appearance or strong attendance down the stretch to offset the waiver for Santana. I realize there were other reasons that were more important factors behind Wren's firing. But I'm pretty sure busting the budget in 2014 had a negative impact on the bonuses that McGuirk, Schuerholz and others were paid that year.
 
nsacpi said:
One situation I've wondered about was in 2014 when Wren went to McGuirk for permission to sign Santana. I remember Wren praising the organization for allowing him to go beyond the bugdet. But I also remember Schuerholz making some comments about the need to bring the numbers back into line. I don't think that happened in part because the team collapsed and there was no playoff appearance or strong attendance down the stretch to offset the waiver for Santana. I realize there were other reasons that were more important factors behind Wren's firing. But I'm pretty sure busting the budget in 2014 had a negative impact on the bonuses that McGuirk, Schuerholz and others were paid that year.
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Executives don't get bonuses in MLB for money saved. The league would never allow that as it would interfere too much with payroll spending and the anti-trust exemption. In fact, baseball pays the least of all executives in sports (and very little when compared to the real world)

I looked all over the internet and could find absolutely no evidence to back up this tin foil hat idea that teams don't spend money so it can go to the execs as bonuses, OWNERS pull that crap, but not executives.
 
Julio3000 said:
Yeah, I expect that's it. Nothing's gonna stand between a pro sports owner and his God-given right to extort a community for a publicly-funded facility.
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true, but I was under the impression that the county approached the Braves after the city declined to fund the renovations of Turner Field. (choosing the football stadium over the baseball one)
 
bravos4evr said:
Executives don't get bonuses in MLB for money saved. The league would never allow that as it would interfere too much with payroll spending and the anti-trust exemption. In fact, baseball pays the least of all executives in sports (and very little when compared to the real world)

I looked all over the internet and could find absolutely no evidence to back up this tin foil hat idea that teams don't spend money so it can go to the execs as bonuses, OWNERS pull that crap, but not executives.
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Curious about your wording here. It makes sense that there wouldn't be a bonus for saving money off of payroll, but what about bonuses tied to profitability of the franchise?

It makes perfect sense that baseball pays less than the "real world" for executives. That's the way it is for all supposed fun jobs. They know that everyone wants to work in sports jobs, and pay no more than what they have to pay to get competent staff. I have a relative who is in upper management in a sports related job (not team sports), and he doesn't bring home as much as I do in my small business.
 
DirkPiggler said:
Curious about your wording here. It makes sense that there wouldn't be a bonus for saving money off of payroll, but what about bonuses tied to profitability of the franchise?
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The bonuses for senior executives are likely tied profits. That's the only thing that makes sense. It gives them the right incentives to put a good product on the field without overspending.

I'm sure Hart and Coppolella hate losing. But one of the reasons they are grumpy is that attendance is likely significantly below projections. Their year-end bonuses will reflect that (and rightfully so).
 
nsacpi said:
The bonuses for senior executives are likely tied profits. That's the only thing that makes sense. It gives them the right incentives to put a good product on the field without overspending.

I'm sure Hart and Coppolella hate losing. But one of the reasons they are grumpy is that attendance is likely significantly below projections. Their year-end bonuses will reflect that (and rightfully so).
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I can find no evidence that executives in MLB receive any bonuses related to anything other than making the playoffs or winning the world series. If anyone can find any articles or anything proving this please post it.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
Albany Herald: Suntrust Park canopy will be stadium's 'signature' feature

http://www.albanyherald.com/sports/suntrust-park-canopy-will-be-stadium-s-signature-feature/article_321ecd94-4b18-57b0-a645-1d14f3a7816e.html

Article mentions that there was a little bit of talk about a retractable roof.
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Exciting!! I'm planning on making the trip over there and staying in the Battery Atlanta for the Braves home opener next year.

Oddly enough, I open my email up today and I have a recruiter from the Atlanta area that has sent me an email. They need a family practice physician at a clinic that is "30 minutes from Atlanta". Not sure where, but I'm willing to talk and see what they are offering. I get a lot of these offers, but one close to Atlanta really piques my interest.
 
bravos4evr said:
Executives don't get bonuses in MLB for money saved. The league would never allow that as it would interfere too much with payroll spending and the anti-trust exemption. In fact, baseball pays the least of all executives in sports (and very little when compared to the real world)

I looked all over the internet and could find absolutely no evidence to back up this tin foil hat idea that teams don't spend money so it can go to the execs as bonuses, OWNERS pull that crap, but not executives.
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Bonuses aren't structured around money saved. It's money made. Which can be the same thing only worded differently.

Virtually every corporation in the Country pays their executives like this. They will have a base salary. For the sake of conversation, let's say McGuirk's is $1M. Then they would have a stretch bonus based on metrics established by upper management/ownership designed to drive profit and growth, usually tiered in some fashion such as: 10% of salary if x metrics are met, 20% if y, 30% if z, 40% if AA, 50% if BB. Usually their will be an upper limit (I have always disagreed with placing a limit because it can stifle growth). With a corporation like Liberty, they won't care AT ALL about wins/losses, attendance, etc. except how they impact the bottom line and as trends of the future and how it affects the value of the franchise (what it could be sold for should they decide to sell). They are not fans. They are owners of a business. "Giving the fans a championship" plays no part in their thinking outside of go to verbage when talking with the media.

You won't find this type of information out there because it isn't released. You MIGHT be able to dig through the financial statements reported by Liberty and find it as a line item report (if you know what to look for) and even then it may be combined with other executives in some way. But, I doubt McGuirk is a big enough fish to even stick his head up out of the water at Liberty.

Liberty almost certainly says:

Here's your comp package - Base Salary, Bonus based on metrics, stock/stock options. Now go run your business as a silo business just like you are the owner. Let's know how much money you make every so often.

They don't care what specific moves are made, just what the bottom line is. If the Braves average making $20M every year, then they will want to see AT LEAST a $20M bottom line next year.
 
I doubt any executives make that much on the braves. Team is notoriously cheap, and like I said, nobody has presented any evidence that ANY MLB team pays bonuses to execs based on revenue. Find me some evidence and post it. Other businesses are not baseball, they are subject to entirely different sets of rules than baseball and the Braves are in an even more unique position due to their relationship with ownership.
 
I've generally taken a shamelessly amoral stance on the Braves' actions related to the new ballpark- it's good for the team, and that's what I care about. If Cobb had rejected the stadium, I would have been fine with that, but an exurban county on the periphery of the Atlanta metro area doesn't seem all that worthy of my pity.

But man, the organization is not doing anything to make that easier. I mean, credit for the Tywin Lannister-esque ruthlessness and competency, I suppose, but from a normative perspective this entire saga has been a disaster.
 
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