Swisher Released

Braves1976 said:
Agreed. Burawa stinks.
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I suppose we can console ourselves with the idea that the team isn't contending this year, so getting the little details right don't matter. Still I find it annoying we gave up a couple guys who have some potential as bench players. Switch hitters are especially useful on the bench because they negate the pronounced platoon advantage that you see with the use ROOGYs and LOOGYs in late innings. And we gave them up so we could have room on the 40 man for the likes of Swisher, Bourn, Burawa and Bonifacio among others.
 
nsacpi said:
I suppose we can console ourselves with the idea that the team isn't contending this year, so getting the little details right don't matter. Still I find it annoying we gave up a couple guys who have some potential as bench players. Switch hitters are especially useful on the bench because they negate the pronounced platoon advantage that you see with the use ROOGYs and LOOGYs in late innings. And we gave them up so we could have room on the 40 man for the likes of Swisher, Bourn, Burawa and Bonifacio among others.
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Yea, I was also annoyed that we passed on and as it turns out, wasted our high rule 5 pick, when there were some solid outfielder CF/OF prospects available worth picking IMO. But instead we get Boni again to go along with Bourn? OK...
 
Understood moving on from Terdo and Cunningham. Just didn't understand why we didn't go after better bench options than them and what we have now. Particularly when it comes to a 4th OF that can play CF. There were a lot of available options. Hell, there will probably still be a guy released in the next couple days that is a better option than Francoeur / Boni.
 
dak said:
Understood moving on from Terdo and Cunningham. Just didn't understand why we didn't go after better bench options than them and what we have now. Particularly when it comes to a 4th OF that can play CF. There were a lot of available options. Hell, there will probably still be a guy released in the next couple days that is a better option than Francoeur / Boni.
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Bonifacio, Bourn, Francoeur. 2016.

Egads.

Wanna bet all three are out of baseball next year?
 
nsacpi said:
I suppose we can console ourselves with the idea that the team isn't contending this year, so getting the little details right don't matter. Still I find it annoying we gave up a couple guys who have some potential as bench players. Switch hitters are especially useful on the bench because they negate the pronounced platoon advantage that you see with the use ROOGYs and LOOGYs in late innings. And we gave them up so we could have room on the 40 man for the likes of Swisher, Bourn, Burawa and Bonifacio among others.
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Completely agree, made no sense to keep any of those guys over Terd and Todd.
 
skillet said:
Completely agree, made no sense to keep any of those guys over Terd and Todd.
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I think we kept Bourn and Swisher so we could try to rehab them. Swisher was apparent that he was a loss cause. It is little decisions like this that can really hurt a team trying to contend. like pervious poster said, at least this is a non compete year, so less hurtful.. But Terdo and Cunnigham could have netted a return at the deadline where I don't feel Boni/Bourn/Frenchy probably won't..
 
NinersSBChamps said:
Great trade they made to acquire him!!! Genius front office strikes again.
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I think it was a net impact of nothing. It helped the Indians save face on two ****ty contracts and the Braves unload one ****ty contract.

And the money is equal. We could have accomplished the same thing keeping CJ and making an accounting entry.

If we can get somebody to take Bourn and $1m of his contract, we will be up $1m on the whole thing.
 
GovClintonTyree said:
I think it was a net impact of nothing. It helped the Indians save face on two ****ty contracts and the Braves unload one ****ty contract.

And the money is equal. We could have accomplished the same thing keeping CJ and making an accounting entry.

If we can get somebody to take Bourn and $1m of his contract, we will be up $1m on the whole thing.
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It also frees up the money by the end of this year giving us more flexibility next season. IIRC, Johnson would be owed money for another year or two after this season.
 
striker42 said:
It also frees up the money by the end of this year giving us more flexibility next season. IIRC, Johnson would be owed money for another year or two after this season.
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I think that was the plan at the time of the trade. To sacrifice in 2016 in order to increase financial flexibility in 2017. The thought back then was that we might have a competitive team in 2017.
 
dak said:
Understood moving on from Terdo and Cunningham. Just didn't understand why we didn't go after better bench options than them and what we have now. Particularly when it comes to a 4th OF that can play CF. There were a lot of available options. Hell, there will probably still be a guy released in the next couple days that is a better option than Francoeur / Boni.
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Exhibit A . . . Drew Stubbs just released. RHH that can play a legit CF. Here are his numbers versus LHP last 3 years: 276 / 357 / 424. He's a better player than Francoeur in pretty much every way.
 
dak said:
Exhibit A . . . Drew Stubbs just released. RHH that can play a legit CF. Here are his numbers versus LHP last 3 years: 276 / 357 / 424. He's a better player than Francoeur in pretty much every way.
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but can they get a handshake agreement done in the next 12 minutes. a decision on Frenchy has to be made in the next 10 minutes. I personally think Boni is gone and they will keep Frenchy. cutting Boni means they eat 1.25 million.. after eating Swisher contract, you have to wonder how many more guys they are going to keep bringing in to try out.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
but can they get a handshake agreement done in the next 12 minutes. a decision on Frenchy has to be made in the next 10 minutes. I personally think Boni is gone and they will keep Frenchy. cutting Boni means they eat 1.25 million.. after eating Swisher contract, you have to wonder how many more guys they are going to keep bringing in to try out.
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If I were king, I'd release Frenchy and keep Boni for now as a backup plan while I pursued better options like Stubbs. If you can lock down Stubbs, Boni hits the bricks.
 
dak said:
If I were king, I'd release Frenchy and keep Boni for now as a backup plan while I pursued better options like Stubbs. If you can lock down Stubbs, Boni hits the bricks.
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not really excited about a guy who already has a K% of 30 for his career and is trending that in the wrong direction. And yes that is also his % against lefties..
 
Our real need is not someone like Stubbs but a decent bench bat to bring in against righty relievers.
 
nsacpi said:
Our real need is not someone like Stubbs but a decent bench bat to bring in against righty relievers.
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Our REAL need is Mallex in CF, Inciarte in RF, Markakis in LF, Olivera becoming a great defender at 3B overnight, the DH adopted and a trade of Folty and Ruiz to Houston for Gattis, and a couple of other things - but who's counting?!?!?

:facepalm:
 
NinersSBChamps said:
You going to try and blindly defend every move the front office makes this season?
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Love how you throw the word "blindly" into so many posts.

I am guessing I will support most of the moves the Braves make this year because of what I see happening. Nothing blind about it. A few tough years to set the stage for a bright future. A strong farm system. A bunch of excellent prospects. An attitude of optimism in the organization. The resources to fill what holes remain over the next couple of years.

A rebuild to be sure... but a rebuild that was needed, and from all the evidence I see, a rebuild that is slightly ahead of schedule.

I think they are doing a lot to earn our support, so yes I think a few of us will support them this year, but far from blindly.
 
mfree80 said:
Love how you throw the word "blindly" into so many posts.

I am guessing I will support most of the moves the Braves make this year because of what I see happening. Nothing blind about it. A few tough years to set the stage for a bright future. A strong farm system. A bunch of excellent prospects. An attitude of optimism in the organization. The resources to fill what holes remain over the next couple of years.

A rebuild to be sure... but a rebuild that was needed, and from all the evidence I see, a rebuild that is slightly ahead of schedule.

I think they are doing a lot to earn our support, so yes I think a few of us will support them this year, but far from blindly.
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Can I see more examples of me tossing the word "blindly" into posts?

Anyway back on track. These bozos still think the Braves can compete. That thought alone is reason enough to be questionable of the front office. There is next to zero major league talent on this team. Teams need some sort of balance in order to be successful. Counting on all these prospects to pan out is extremely unlikely and that's being generous. Once again the major league roster going into this season is worse than it was the previous season. Not exactly ringing endorsements of the front office. I understand the need of young talent, but to basically dismiss the major league club two straight off seasons is alarming in my opinion. At some point there needs to be a mixture of real major league players and the prospects. Until the organization puts forth some sort of effort to improve the Atlanta Braves, I will remain extremely negative. Two years of getting worse at the major league level (the one that actually matters) needs to be questioned. Games are won on the field and not in some minor league affiliate city.
 
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