Taking on Salary Through Trades

bravesfanMatt said:
rephrase.. doesn't hold the same value as Ender. We don't know who the better player will be in the long run.. Ender just holds far better value over Smith. I am not inclined to trade either personally... not unless the return is 'Miller like'
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The better player doesn't always have the higher value. Other factors such as salaries, years of team control come into play.

I'm not advocating trading Ender without getting appropriate value. I just cited him as a player who is not a prospect but is a potential trade chip.
 
nsacpi said:
It is clear that:

1) Payroll will go up significantly next year and

2) The upcoming FA class is not that deep

Add those two items together with the FO's occasional statements about preferring to add players through the trade route, and it seems probable that we will be taking on salary via trades next off-season.

If we focus on players on contracts with little or no surplus value (expected production minus cost) then we can pick up some of those players without giving up much in return. Also by picking up players with only 2 or 3 years left on the contract, we can limit risks (especially if one or more of the remaining years is an option).

Some teams who have spent to their limits might be looking to gain some flexibility by off-loading some contracts. I'm thinking for example of the Tigers, Rangers and Blue Jays. All three of those teams have players who might fit into what we are trying to do in terms of adding some veterans to supplement a young core.
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I think most holes can and will be filled via FA, especially if the Braves have another protected pick. For example, Cervelli would be an excellent signing to fill the gaping hole at C. I think he should be FA priority #1.

This will probably be the first offseason where the team stops trading away MLB pieces for prospects, and starts acquiring MLB talent. The most glaring hole other than C is corner OF and probably 3B, particularly a RHed impact bat (as usual for the Braves).

Looking at RHed corner OFers with 2-3 years of control remaining around the league, I see: Ryan Braun, and....nobody else. No idea where offense is going to come via trade.

The only FAs that would fit that mold: Carlos Gomez (tailed off big time), Cespedes (good option on a 4-5 year deal), and Bautista (good option on a 3-4 year deal, but likely way too expensive).

I would like to see 3B filled short term by David Freese, who is currently putting up his typical .700-.750 OPS with the Pirates for a paltry $3M. It still blows my mind that an average MLB 3B was available for such a bargain. Prado would also be a good option.

So to summarize, the team by mid-2017:

C - Cervelli

1B - Freeman

2B - Albies

3B - Freese/Prado

SS - Swanson

LF - Braun/Cespedes/Bautista

CF - Inciarte/Smith

RF - Markakis/Inciarte
 
Enscheff said:
I think most holes can and will be filled via FA, especially if the Braves have another protected pick. For example, Cervelli would be an excellent signing to fill the gaping hole at C. I think he should be FA priority #1.

This will probably be the first offseason where the team stops trading away MLB pieces for prospects, and starts acquiring MLB talent. The most glaring hole other than C is corner OF and probably 3B, particularly a RHed impact bat (as usual for the Braves).

Looking at RHed corner OFers with 2-3 years of control remaining around the league, I see: Ryan Braun, and....nobody else. No idea where offense is going to come via trade.

The only FAs that would fit that mold: Carlos Gomez (tailed off big time), Cespedes (good option on a 4-5 year deal), and Bautista (good option on a 3-4 year deal, but likely way too expensive).

I would like to see 3B filled short term by David Freese, who is currently putting up his typical .700-.750 OPS with the Pirates for a paltry $3M. It still blows my mind that an average MLB 3B was available for such a bargain. Prado would also be a good option.

So to summarize, the team by mid-2017:

C - Cervelli
1B - Freeman
2B - Albies
3B - Freese/Prado
SS - Swanson
LF - Braun/Cespedes/Bautista
CF - Inciarte/Smith
RF - Markakis/Inciarte
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I think we'll dabble some in the FA market. But stay away from the guys with qualifying offers. A high second round pick is something I think we will be reluctant to part with.

In terms of need, catcher is the most obvious one. Someone to play third would be desirable, but less urgent if Ruiz maintains his improved performance in AAA. I think there is a chance we trade for an established starting pitcher. He would potentially join a 2017 rotation of Teheran, Wisler, Blair and Folty.
 
nsacpi said:
I think the return on Ender would have to be very high. Imo we are more likely to trade Adonis Garcia or Markakis for a catcher.
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It wouldn't shock me to see some of the young pitches moved like Jenkins and Fried to help acquire some young and controllable position players. Newcomb and Blair and probably the guys from last year's draft seem like guys they'll surely want to hold on to, but the rest, eh. How high is Tyrell Jenkins's ceiling really anyway?
 
nsacpi said:
I think we'll dabble some in the FA market. But stay away from the guys with qualifying offers. A high second round pick is something I think we will be reluctant to part with.

In terms of need, catcher is the most obvious one. Someone to play third would be desirable, but less urgent if Ruiz maintains his improved performance in AAA. I think there is a chance we trade for an established starting pitcher. He would potentially join a 2017 rotation of Teheran, Wisler, Blair and Folty.
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I'll bet they're aiming to have Newcomb in there too at some point next year. I'm actually expecting he'll be in Atlanta by July.
 
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