Teheran to the DL

There was a time I'd consider this a big loss, but I'd rather see anyone not named Wisler start over JT thgese days
 
Maybe the time off can get him going again. JT at 90-91 can be successful. JT at 86 will get hit hard.
 
Yeah I don't get why folks want to show Julio the door. He's not going to be the staff ace, but for $8M this year and $11M next season he's a bargain (esp compared to McCarthy's -0.2 WAR this season at 11.5M)
 
DOB- #Braves’ Teheran said he’s planning to start Friday vs. Padres provided no setbacks as he recovers from jammed thumb.

DL McCarthy, and go Julio-Sanchez-Newk-Soroka-Folty?
 
Read a tweet today about Julio’s DL stint....that he’s hoping to regain velocity. If you are hoping to regain velocity back up to 91 and you are still in your 20’s with no major injury history. Dang.
 
this season is quickly starting to look a little dicey. we're down to relying on folty and newk for everything. and it's hard to fully accept that both can go the rest of the way as well as they've started.

wtf is up with gohara and why isn't he getting regular starts?
 
I like to beat dead horses. To think we could have had a few decent prospects for Julio and now he has little to no value. To me, it was the 2nd worse move for Coppy (HO trade in the lead by a huge margin of course).
 
chipchildress said:
ok, but the braves have plenty of "prospects" as it is. they need players.
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If we moved him in 2016 for prospects....those prospects “would” be players (or very close) in 2018. That’s the point.

Think about having yet another solid pitching or position player in AAA, ready to be called up. We would most likely have that plus another good prospect in say AA.

The 2016 deadline was the absolute most we could have gotten for Julio. Coppy ask for a Sale type package and wasn’t reasonable. We could have gotten two top 100 guys. Even if they both weren’t top 30 guys...it would t have mattered. Many times the difference between top 50 or top 100 positions is simply age. Not always the case, we could have gotten and couple of Riley, Touki type players that year....easily.
 
TheBravos said:
If we moved him in 2016 for prospects....those prospects “would” be players (or very close) in 2018. That’s the point.

Think about having yet another solid pitching or position player in AAA, ready to be called up. We would most likely have that plus another good prospect in say AA.

The 2016 deadline was the absolute most we could have gotten for Julio. Coppy ask for a Sale type package and wasn’t reasonable. We could have gotten two top 100 guys. Even if they both weren’t top 30 guys...it would t have mattered. Many times the difference between top 50 or top 100 positions is simply age. Not always the case, we could have gotten and couple of Riley, Touki type players that year....easily.
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There is no firm reporting on what they were actually offered. There was never any sense I had from reporting or just the world at large that anyone through Teheran was worth a whole lot.

I personally think he would have been traded for any package that included a premium prospect, but that Atlanta decided that a middle or back end rotation piece that cost less than 12 million was worth more than some organizational depth.

I don't think even two years ago anyone would have looked at him as a playoff starter.

I preferred moving him. I did defend not trading him just to move him. Right now, lookin at 2019, I kind of wish they had just moved him. But he's arguably still worth a rotation spot at 11 million. Hard to say how up and down he's been. I think he's either about to be done or to go under the knife.
 
Southcack77 said:
There is no firm reporting on what they were actually offered. There was never any sense I had from reporting or just the world at large that anyone through Teheran was worth a whole lot.

I personally think he would have been traded for any package that included a premium prospect, but that Atlanta decided that a middle or back end rotation piece that cost less than 12 million was worth more than some organizational depth.

I don't think even two years ago anyone would have looked at him as a playoff starter.

I preferred moving him. I did defend not trading him just to move him. Right now, lookin at 2019, I kind of wish they had just moved him. But he's arguably still worth a rotation spot at 11 million. Hard to say how up and down he's been. I think he's either about to be done or to go under the knife.
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Two years ago he was killing it. Do you remember what was given up for guys that had come from nowhere like Porcello?? It was a massive sellers market with few options. I have no doubt we could have gotten a decent package. I have no doubt (now that we know the real Coppy), he was trying to rape everyone and Julio’s stuff wasn’t “that” good, so people just stayed away.

Why would you hold onto a good pitcher when you suck....have the one if the worst records in baseball, are rebuilding and not looking like it’s gonna get better very soon?? Julio was a top 10 pitcher in MLB for most of that year leading up to the deadline and was cheap and had years of control. He was the absolute BEST starting pitcher available at that deadline and was pitching about the best he ever had.

We dropped the ball period. It was a no brainer to trade him. He was due to regress...little did we know how much he would, but it was THE time to sell high on him.

Absolute boneheaded, short sighted decision.
 
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