The 2020 Draft Thread

clvclv said:
It's taken him four years away from cold weather to turn into what he has so far - how much longer might it take him to be something to get excited about?
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Are you having abacus issues? The 2020 season would have only been his third full year pitching south of Massachusetts, and he was starting to turn the corner, or at least looked like it in a small sample-size. But even in 2019 his strikeout rate was very solid.
 
Heyward said:
Kelley would have been a high upside pick but he would have cost about our whole pool, which isnt that much to begin with.
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I'd probably rather spend the money and have a potential star in the low minors than go cheap with a guy you're hoping hits on everything and becomes a middle of the rotation guy.
 
striker42 said:
I'd probably rather spend the money and have a potential star in the low minors than go cheap with a guy you're hoping hits on everything and becomes a middle of the rotation guy.
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Some word Kelley may go to college is why hes slipping.
 
Longenhagen on whether Schuster is under slot: “Teams seemed on him in the comp round so maybe under slot but not by a lot.”
 
Heyward said:
Fangraphs, Law, McDaniel, and Callis had him around top 35. It's not a major reach. But keep crying.
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It's not a major reach. But there were better arms on the board. I'd get it more if we had a second rounder. If we're going underslot to go overslot later, it would make more sense if we were picking again soon.
 
What part of this do you misunderstand?

"Exactly how high a ceiling do you expect to get picking 25th??? You really think there's a Trout-like situation waiting to happen in every draft?

Callis links the Dodgers to Kelley at #29 - with emphasis on how big a coup that would be."


Must've been a different Heyward posting about Kelley in post #174, sorry. You must've been hacked.
 
clvclv said:
What part of this do you misunderstand?

"Exactly how high a ceiling do you expect to get picking 25th??? You really think there's a Trout-like situation waiting to happen in every draft?

Callis links the Dodgers to Kelley at #29 - with emphasis on how big a coup that would be."


Must've been a different Heyward posting about Kelley in post #174, sorry. You must've been hacked.
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No ones taking Kelley and we're 37 picks in. Maybe teams know hes gonna be close to very unsignable.
 
striker42 said:
I wanted Kelley. Much higher upside.
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37 picks in and he's still on the board. Clearly not everyone agrees with you. Either teams think he is a hard sign or perhaps there are more red flags than you know of. The lack of a quality breaking ball is certainly worrisome.
 
Carp said:
37 picks in and he's still on the board. Clearly not everyone agrees with you. Either teams think he is a hard sign or perhaps there are more red flags than you know of. The lack of a quality breaking ball is certainly worrisome.
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Or else no one wants to put that much of their pool into him.
 
Before anyone paints it otherwise, I don't hate the pick, it just doesn't excite me. It's a small reach, not a huge one.

Im just tired of non-elite ceiling picks. To have elite ceiling late in the first you have to go high risk but that's what prep arms are for.

Anyway, let's hope every dramatic improvement was real and he has some more. He's a Brave now so I'll pull for him.
 
striker42 said:
Before anyone paints it otherwise, I don't hate the pick, it just doesn't excite me. It's a small reach, not a huge one.

Im just tired of non-elite ceiling picks. To have elite ceiling late in the first you have to go high risk but that's what prep arms are for.

Anyway, let's hope every dramatic improvement was real and he has some more. He's a Brave now so I'll pull for him.
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Sums up my thoughts as well.
 
Could be a play to underslot the max amount. If he doesn't take it, you get another pick next year. If he does, you get good value and have a possibility to turn a 3 into a 2, a 4 into a 3 and a 5 into a 4.
 
Horsehide Harry said:
Could be a play to underslot the max amount. If he doesn't take it, you get another pick next year. If he does, you get good value and have a possibility to turn a 3 into a 2, a 4 into a 3 and a 5 into a 4.
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Based on where everyone projected him, i dont expect him to be crazy underslot.
 
Heyward said:
Based on where everyone projected him, i dont expect him to be crazy underslot.
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I'm talking strategy not tactics.

I'm suggesting that the Braves would like to have him but only at an extreme slot discount. If they don't get that, then they would be comfortable punting the pick until next year when they have better scouting and likely a deeper pool.

I may be wrong in supposing that. Maybe they really like him and would have taken him under any circumstances. IDK. But, if there is any a year where clubs will have more leverage over draftees, I don't know when it would be. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm saying it's business.
 
Kiley has him as a 40+, a grade that spans #34-#72. So not some crazy reach at pick 25.

I was hoping the Braves saw something other didn't have time to see, and maybe this kid is exactly that.
 
striker42 said:
Before anyone paints it otherwise, I don't hate the pick, it just doesn't excite me. It's a small reach, not a huge one.

Im just tired of non-elite ceiling picks. To have elite ceiling late in the first you have to go high risk but that's what prep arms are for.

Anyway, let's hope every dramatic improvement was real and he has some more. He's a Brave now so I'll pull for him.
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once again, your oversimplification of how the draft works and the risk and reward with each player is laughable.
 
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