The Biden Presidency

mqt said:
Sorry, I should have clarified. When it comes to the ability to take preventative measures such as birth control, would not the risk of sexual assault be compelling in any way? I mean this really from a purely hypothetical world where we iron out some massive agreement to ban abortions in exchange for ensuring we are doing anything we can to provide options to either avoid pregnancy or not have burdens placed on either the mother or the child.
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Politics is often about compromise. In my ideal world everyone who doesn't actively want to become pregnant would have a medication option for temporary sterilization. In the world we're in now? Making morning after meds available to women who report sexual assaults in lieu of universal abortion access would make me tap dance down Main Street.
 
I was more willing to move a bit on her abortion is acceptable.

Now after having my first child? I can’t imagine anyone wanting to abort a baby. Best thing in my life.
 
thethe said:
I was more willing to move a bit on her abortion is acceptable.

Now after having my first child? I can’t imagine anyone wanting to abort a baby. Best thing in my life.
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Yep. I was one those Clinton-esque types that disagreed with it but didn't think it fair to impose my will on others. The first ultrasound where the kid started to look like a kid radicalized me.
 
Jaw said:
Politics is often about compromise. In my ideal world everyone who doesn't actively want to become pregnant would have a medication option for temporary sterilization. In the world we're in now? Making morning after meds available to women who report sexual assaults in lieu of universal abortion access would make me tap dance down Main Street.
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Why not sterilize men till they are in a marriage or relationship and have decided they want to have children?
 
striker42 said:
This is a great example of the problem with the abortion debate. First, people tend to argue that you have to have some kind of qualification to have an opinion on the issue. That you either have to be a woman or have to have adopted kids. That kind of stuff. But it doesn't require those things to have an opinion on whether a fetus a human life with the same rights as any other or whether it has no rights separate from the mother.

People also argue practical issues in the abortion debate. Like what would happen to all the children and whether it would be a drain on the system. But that's all irrelevant. If a fetus has rights that are the same as any other person then those rights cannot be violated for mere convenience. If you have a child and you're struggling to afford to care for that child, you're not allowed to euthanize your child because of the economics of it. The reason is because your child has a right to exist that is separate and distinct from you. If a fetus has those same rights then practical considerations cannot be taken into account.

On the flip side, if a fetus has no rights apart from the mother then anti-abortion laws are horrific infringements on a woman's rights to autonomy over her body.

The problem is that no one wants to argue the philosophical question of when rights attach and personhood begins because there's no objective answer. It's far easier to assume your answer to that question is correct and then argue murder or invasion of rights to control your body.
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I have no problems with those things

I just want to know how many kids are being adopted by the loudest in the room
 
thethe said:
Republicans mess it up if they continue to elect people like Romney.

That’s not where the party is right now. The “crazy” candidates are the ones that actually fight for their voters. Those people are popular within the Republican Party.
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Hard to take you seriously when you support MTG... I freaking went to school with her... she's a disaster of a person
 
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