Tapate50
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I believe its "too gooder"
The Biden Presidency
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I believe its "too gooder"
Gonna have to take some of this point by point.
There’s roughly half of the country that agree in at least small part with the mandates. I’m not personally one of them, though I am neutral on it.
The woke appointees are not something that I think are a negative. As I mentioned several months ago, Trump also “virtue signaled” with his appointees, just with different virtues. I don’t believe that his cabinet members are any less qualified than previous cabinet members. Even if as an example he specifically chose to appoint a Transgender cabinet member, it’s not like he just threw anybody into the post. Levine was the Health Secretary of PA prior to her appointment as Deputy Health Secretary, which is a perfectly acceptable resume for the job. Just because someone is diverse or holds a specific view that aligns politically with Biden, it doesn’t mean they are unqualified for the role.
The targeting of parents from the FBI is a bit of an oversimplification right now. If more evidence comes out that shows the FBI was actively tracking parents just for protesting or disagreeing with the school board, I’ll agree with it being a big issue. It really wouldn’t be unique for the FBI to do such a thing, but I’d agree it shouldn’t happen. If they were targeting people who made threats of violence against school board members, it’s a bit of a different story. From what I’ve read, the jury is still out on that. I’ll never doubt law enforcement’s ability to do ****ty things, so I’m willing to accept it’s possible there was some overreach, though.
Insane inflation is certainly a problem, but it’s unclear how much Biden’s policies are impacting it. From a supply side perspective, it’d be unfair to pin this primarily on Biden, as supply has plummeted in many industries that have both domestic and international causes. Believe it or not, COVID restrictions are not unique to the United States, and blaming Biden for global supply chain issues with seeds planted in April of 2020 might not be correct. There are possibly some steps Biden could take to help, but these have their own unintended consequences.
The Afghan withdrawal was pretty bad. I don’t think it was the earth shattering tragedy it was made out to be, but I’ve been vocal in my distaste for how it was executed.
As for your facetious positives, I think the family separation policy and its implementation have been disgusting and have no major concerns with compensating them in theory. However, this proposal was not being discussed out of some sort of moral obligation, but rather in response to pending court actions. Viewed through this lens, it was more of an attempt at a pragmatic solution to mitigate potential costs.
I don’t care what President Biden tweets. I didn’t even *really* care what Trump tweeted aside from it being an embarrassment, but it’s not a return to civility that puts food on the table.
sturg33
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The Biden administration has NOT mandated vaccines for migrants entering the country
He has also exempted his own staff...
striker42
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I agree with almost everything he says there. Most of what he says should be bedrock principles of our society. Don't cancel people because of what they say or believe, expect honesty out of our leaders, and encourage people to decide what they believe themselves.
cajunrevenge
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I get all those things. What I dont get is how you vote for Trump if you dont like those things.
sturg33
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If this is how you think, there is no reason to answer your question
I don’t see how you can possibly not think of examples of the right doing these same things, with the obvious example of the COVID mandates. The only other difference I can see is that it’s more common for the Right to be aligned with the particular laws being enforced and how that’s done. Once the law being enforced fails to suit their fancy, many on the right stop blanket supporting the police.
sturg33
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Trump would not be mass firing people who don't take the shot. He wanted the schools open last year and he also said we need to learn to live with this.
The original shutdown was horrible but at least he learned his lesson and said we needed to move on and open up.
Biden is now mass firing truck drivers which will further cripple the supply chain.
The gop is isnt trying to censor speech at every turn and tell is what words we can no longer use.
The gop doesn't have an entire propaganda apparatus spinning every news cycle to meet a favorable marxist narrative. See russia, Covington, rittinghouse, covid, the list goes on and on
The gop doesn't outwardly call to defend police, raise money for bailing out rioters, and call rioters who literally kill people mostly peaceful protest
The GOP doesn't make literally every issue on planet earth about race and gender nonsense to divide everyone
All the gop does is play defense (poorly) and its why they've lost so much ground. At least the dems have gone so far though that there is finally people pushing back.
I typoed. Where it says obvious example, I meant obvious exception.
Unless you’re trying to say something about the Founding Fathers, military, police, etc. How is the right’s obsession with teaching CRT (which we really aren’t doing, but it’s a fun buzzword) any different in practice? Remember Kap? His peaceful protest was met with screams to fire him or worse from the Right. Oh, and heaven forbid you say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas.
They’re actually so good at it that when Fox News ceased to be enough for them, they created a dozen new ones like Newsmax and OANN. The only argument I can see to the contrary is that the Right is far worse at developing popular websites. That isn’t to say they haven’t tried.
Unless the date is January 6, 2021. If that’s the case, then **** Law Enforcement right in the ear, these were heroes.
Then who gives a **** which bathroom someone is using or what the race/religion is of the people committing crimes or coming into this nation?
The Right has been fantastic at taking benign things and turning them into affronts to democracy that they’re just trying to defend against.
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I cannot imagine looking at this list and not silently nodding along with almost all of them. I agree that raising the minimum age to 24 is probably a recipe for disaster, and would add that while I am fully on board with the ICE thing, I can see a reasonable person strongly objecting to it.
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
You literally sat around 10 minutes and were like, nah, the first reply wasn’t pathetic and full of bull**** enough
Let me go back to the well of tired catch phrases you continue to use over and over from your fantasy scenarios
You know the propaganda is effective when someone doesn’t think CRT is taught in schools despite curriculum releases as well as video of actual classroom lessons.
There is no reconciliation as a nation when we can’t agree on simple corroborated facts.
I guess all these concerned parents believe lies.
There is no reconciliation as a nation when we can’t agree on simple corroborated facts.
I guess all these concerned parents believe lies.
I love the conflation of things like the right upset Kap is spitting on America every chance he gets and social media outright removing conservative voices from their platforms while people get fired for sharing inappropriate beliefs.
Lack of intellectual honesty and that’s why we are winning across the country.
The jig is up and normal Americans and moving to the new right in droves.
Democrats are getting whiter and the new right is getting more diverse. This allocation has only accelerated since the sham 2020 election.
Lack of intellectual honesty and that’s why we are winning across the country.
The jig is up and normal Americans and moving to the new right in droves.
Democrats are getting whiter and the new right is getting more diverse. This allocation has only accelerated since the sham 2020 election.
Exactly my point. Based on Kap’s views, a large group of Americans very vocally came to the conclusion that he needed to go and would boycott the NFL if a team signed him. Saying that it’s wrong to conflate that with other people wanting to get others fired for their views just seems silly to me.
As long as the new right sticks with the America first agenda we will have a governing coalition for a century. The left has absolutely no policies that improve their constituencies lives. People have experienced their governing not only at the federal level with this disaster we are seeing but over the last century in our great cities.
Problem is the republicans only cared about big business and lost the country. The new right will not make that mistake.