The Consistent Justin Upton

gilesfan said:
My words were if the Braves had 6 other average to slightly below average hitters, they would be top 5. In aggregate, the other 6 are bad (see numbers). Not hard to understand.
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Except they aren't. Heyward, Gattis, and La Stella are not bad hitters. Simmons, Johnson, and BJ are just that bad on their own to drag the offense down. Gattis has a wrc+ of 136, Heyward at 110, and La Stella at 99. By my counts that's one really good hitter, an above average hitter, and another who is essentially league average. It's just the other 3 (plus Uggla who played half the year) were that horrible. Don't try and get cute when you get called out on your stupidity.
 
thewupk said:
Except they aren't. Heyward, Gattis, and La Stella are not bad hitters. Simmons, Johnson, and BJ are just that bad on their own to drag the offense down. Gattis has a wrc+ of 136, Heyward at 110, and La Stella at 99. By my counts that's one really good hitter, an above average hitter, and another who is essentially league average. It's just the other 3 (plus Uggla who played half the year) were that horrible. Don't try and get cute when you get called out on your stupidity.
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It's a Nats lover, what do you expect?
 
cajunrevenge said:
My problem is where he is hitting. He should be no lower than third. I think he just gets better pitches to hit with no one on base. His batting average is .316 with none on and .255 with men on base.

I also worry about how he will age. He seems like he gets by on pure talent than hard work and instincts. As he ages and that athleticism declines I could see him not being able to adjust. With all his talent he still misses a lot of meatballs right down the middle of the plate. If I was Wren I would ask for a discount to keep BJ around. We overpaid BJ by 75 million. The least Justin can do is take a 2-3 mill a year discount to make up for some of that. I would offer him 6 years 108 million that's 18 per year. If he won't take that then I would shop him. I know he has been good but this is the highest his value has been since April 2013.
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I actually think the opposite. The fact that Upton is such a great hitter while not being the greatest athlete makes me more inclined to keep him. Guys like him just know how to hit, which is why guys like Manny, Thome, Frank Thomas, Piazza, Ortiz, Giambi, etc all stayed relatively productive (offensively speaking) late into their careers despite not being all that athletic.
 
Carp said:
I actually think the opposite. The fact that Upton is such a great hitter while not being the greatest athlete makes me more inclined to keep him. Guys like him just know how to hit, which is why guys like Manny, Thome, Frank Thomas, Piazza, Ortiz, Giambi, etc all stay relatively productive (offensively speaking) late into their careers despite not being all that athletic.
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I agree. He's got several years before his offense is likely to decline. He'll lose a step in the field—which will bump him from "slightly below average" to "defensive liability," but I don't think we need to start talking about an offensive decline anytime soon. He's just shy of 27.
 
thewupk said:
Except they aren't. Heyward, Gattis, and La Stella are not bad hitters. Simmons, Johnson, and BJ are just that bad on their own to drag the offense down. Gattis has a wrc+ of 136, Heyward at 110, and La Stella at 99. By my counts that's one really good hitter, an above average hitter, and another who is essentially league average. It's just the other 3 (plus Uggla who played half the year) were that horrible. Don't try and get cute when you get called out on your stupidity.
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Reading comprehension fail, lol
 
thewupk said:
Except they aren't. Heyward, Gattis, and La Stella are not bad hitters. Simmons, Johnson, and BJ are just that bad on their own to drag the offense down. Gattis has a wrc+ of 136, Heyward at 110, and La Stella at 99. By my counts that's one really good hitter, an above average hitter, and another who is essentially league average. It's just the other 3 (plus Uggla who played half the year) were that horrible. Don't try and get cute when you get called out on your stupidity.
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Get em
 
ag·gre·gate
noun
ˈagrigit/
1.a whole formed by combining several (typically disparate) elements.

"the council was an aggregate of three regional assemblies"
"the result put the sides even on aggregate"
synonyms: total, sum total, sum, grand total
"he won with an aggregate of 325"
 
Its really about the batting order if you ask me. putting BJ in the leadoff spot was an unmitigated disaster. I think the tone is set for the whole game when he starts off with a horrible AB. Now you have a dangerous hitter there and it changes things.

It sure does help also that Justin is hitting absolutely everything.
 
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