Sure, let the restaurants stay open but allow all employees at those establishments to collect unemployment if they do not want to work during the Pandemic at full wage replacement including a stipend for tips.
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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Sure, let the restaurants stay open but allow all employees at those establishments to collect unemployment if they do not want to work during the Pandemic at full wage replacement including a stipend for tips.
If we’re saying it’s tyranny to force businesses to close, then let them stay open if that’s their choice. Just let the front line workers choose too. The choice between paying bills and not paying bills isn’t really a choice at all, so allow them to do so.
So it’s not about tyranny then. It’s your relative belief in the pandemic.
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
I've got no problem with shutting people down, as long as they're being paid full wages. Otherwise they should get the choice. And I'm not someone that doesn't take COVID seriously, I've only been in two public buildings since March. Taking away a person's ability to provide for their family is just going too far in my mind.
Runnin
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They were never meant to "work". Most people know that. They were only one of a few things people could do to slow down the spread.
The virus was always going to spread anyway.
I’d argue this is actually a perfect illustration of why we don’t know if masks work or not.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Some interesting reviews of A Libertarian Walks Into a Bear:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50358538-a-libertarian-walks-into-a-bear
The one written by "David" on April 30, 2020 makes some especially good points about libertarianism during a pandemic:
Returning to the book as a whole: movements and their philosophies should not be judged by their most embarrassing practitioners, but they often are. The pronouncements of vapid movie- and pop-stars are used to condemn US liberalism, and the public antics of morbidly-obese Confederate sympathizers stand in for people of good will who think the world is going to hell in a hat-box. For a long time, libertarianism seemed too much of a fringe movement to attract the critical mass of foolish hypocrites who bring shame to other political points-of-view. But no longer.
The pandemic has thrown into high relief the occasional need for whole-community action in a time of crisis. If a small group of people disregards government regulations installed to protect the weakest of us, the whole community can suffer. But some deliberately fail to understand. As a veteran of New Hampshire-libertarian inflighting says in this book, “They don't get the responsibility side of being a libertarian” (Kindle location 1636).
From another reviewer (Angie): And I was glad not to be in the shoes of libertarian firefighter John Babiarz, who is faced with the ethical dilemma of being called to put out an open fire built by a group of libertarians to cook hot dogs when the area was experiencing a severe drought and open fires had been prohibited.
Indeed! But I suppose some will argue the case for freedom to cook hot dogs on an open fire no matter the circumstances.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50358538-a-libertarian-walks-into-a-bear
The one written by "David" on April 30, 2020 makes some especially good points about libertarianism during a pandemic:
Returning to the book as a whole: movements and their philosophies should not be judged by their most embarrassing practitioners, but they often are. The pronouncements of vapid movie- and pop-stars are used to condemn US liberalism, and the public antics of morbidly-obese Confederate sympathizers stand in for people of good will who think the world is going to hell in a hat-box. For a long time, libertarianism seemed too much of a fringe movement to attract the critical mass of foolish hypocrites who bring shame to other political points-of-view. But no longer.
The pandemic has thrown into high relief the occasional need for whole-community action in a time of crisis. If a small group of people disregards government regulations installed to protect the weakest of us, the whole community can suffer. But some deliberately fail to understand. As a veteran of New Hampshire-libertarian inflighting says in this book, “They don't get the responsibility side of being a libertarian” (Kindle location 1636).
From another reviewer (Angie): And I was glad not to be in the shoes of libertarian firefighter John Babiarz, who is faced with the ethical dilemma of being called to put out an open fire built by a group of libertarians to cook hot dogs when the area was experiencing a severe drought and open fires had been prohibited.
Indeed! But I suppose some will argue the case for freedom to cook hot dogs on an open fire no matter the circumstances.
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nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
Excess deaths per 100,000 (mid-March through late November)
1. NY 220
2. NJ 218
3. LA 187
4. MS 186
5. CT 158
6. MI 145
7. IL 144
8. AL 144
9. SC 144
10. AZ 143
Other large states:
CA 79
TX 118
FL 124
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-death-toll-us.html
1. NY 220
2. NJ 218
3. LA 187
4. MS 186
5. CT 158
6. MI 145
7. IL 144
8. AL 144
9. SC 144
10. AZ 143
Other large states:
CA 79
TX 118
FL 124
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/05/05/us/coronavirus-death-toll-us.html
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