The Coronavirus, not the beer

Runnin said:
The vaccine Dark Horse podcasts folks are in the first segment. They say the virus likely did come from a lab and that's why the new strains aren't weaker, which is usually the case. But they don't say China unleashed it on the world on purpose.

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I'm not much a conspiracy guy, but I thought coming up with a vaccine so quickly sorta led to this being man/lab created. Just seems maybe there was research on the virus to give us a headstart on the vaccine.
 
msstate7 said:
I'm not much a conspiracy guy, but I thought coming up with a vaccine so quickly sorta led to this being man/lab created. Just seems maybe there was research on the virus to give us a headstart on the vaccine.
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It’s been worked on for years, lost funding a while back.
 
It wasn't that quick, and it definitely wasn't created in a lab. The furthest you can realistically go in that direction is the possibility that it was tampered with in a lab after discovery. Even that is a stretch.
 
Dalyn said:
It wasn't that quick, and it definitely wasn't created in a lab. The furthest you can realistically go in that direction is the possibility that it was tampered with in a lab after discovery. Even that is a stretch.
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Not sure how credible this is, but it says mumps was the quickest before covid19...

"Previously, the mumps vaccine was the quickest to have ever been developed, according to National Geographic. And that took four years, from collecting viral samples to licensing the drug in 1967. For what it’s worth, it was originally estimated that it might take 12-18 months to create a coronavirus vaccine, though it was closer to about nine months."

https://coronavirus.nautil.us/until-now-whats-the-quickest-a-vaccine-has-ever-been-developed/

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If this is true, I'd say it was "quick"
 
sturg33 said:
But

What

About

South

Dakota!!!

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This would be a good graph to do with deaths data. I can only find deaths for those counties the last 14 days.

Deaths in Graham County the past 14 days: 8

Deaths in Cochise County the past 14 days: 40

Deaths in Pinal County the past 14 days: 133

On a per 100,000 basis that works out to:

Pinal County 29 deaths

Cochise County 31 deaths

Graham County 21 deaths

I only have the deaths data for those 3 counties for the past 14 days. But at least for that period it looks like the county with the mask mandate is suffering about 30% less deaths than the other two. What a surprise.
 
nsacpi said:
This would be a good graph to do with deaths data. I can only find deaths for those counties the last 14 days.

Deaths in Graham County the past 14 days: 8

Deaths in Cochise County the past 14 days: 40

Deaths in Pinal County the past 14 days: 133

On a per 100,000 basis that works out to:

Pinal County 29 deaths

Cochise County 31 deaths

Graham County 21 deaths

I only have the deaths data for those 3 counties for the past 14 days. But at least for that period it looks like the county with the mask mandate is suffering about 30% less deaths than the other two. What a surprise.
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And how about deaths data in NY?

Oh right you dont talk about that anymore.

Must focus on the epicenter... South Dakota
 
sturg33 said:
If Carp and goldy and the board lecturer want to claim these pivots aren't political but rather shifting to the data and the science,

Does that mean they believe Trump, thethe, DeSantis, and sturg33 were all correct and have been for months?
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Tennessee and Florida have also recently relaxed some restrictions. I guess they're part of this political ploy to get Orange Man out too eh?
 
Trump's careful to take every position at some point, but he's still always full of BS. It was unfortunate that he politicized every aspect of the virus from day 1 and making it hard for credible information to survive. But doing that to every aspect of govt was his intent from the day he rode down the escalator. So far, he's come up short.
 
msstate7 said:
Not sure how credible this is, but it says mumps was the quickest before covid19...

"Previously, the mumps vaccine was the quickest to have ever been developed, according to National Geographic. And that took four years, from collecting viral samples to licensing the drug in 1967. For what it’s worth, it was originally estimated that it might take 12-18 months to create a coronavirus vaccine, though it was closer to about nine months."

https://coronavirus.nautil.us/until-now-whats-the-quickest-a-vaccine-has-ever-been-developed/

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If this is true, I'd say it was "quick"
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I guess it would be more accurate to say it was not rushed, which is often the implication when someone says it was quick.
 
https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/12/07/how-did-we-get-a-coronavirus-vaccine-so-fast-years-of-research/

"Billions in company and government funding certainly sped up vaccine development — and the unfortunately huge number of infections meant scientists didn’t have to wait long to learn the shots appeared to be working.

But long before COVID-19 was on the radar, the groundwork was laid in large part by two streams of research, one at the NIH and the other at the University of Pennsylvania — and because scientists had learned a bit about other coronaviruses from prior SARS and MERS outbreaks.

“When the pandemic started, we were on a strong footing both in terms of the science” and experience handling mRNA, said Dr. Tal Zaks, chief medical officer of Massachusetts-based Moderna."
 
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