The Coronavirus, not the beer

New research indicates that the coronavirus began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February, weeks before the first confirmed case, and that travelers brought in the virus mainly from Europe, not Asia.

“The majority is clearly European,” said Harm van Bakel, a geneticist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, who co-wrote a study awaiting peer review.

A separate team at N.Y.U. Grossman School of Medicine came to strikingly similar conclusions, despite studying a different group of cases. Both teams analyzed genomes from coronaviruses taken from New Yorkers starting in mid-March.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/...ope-genomes.html?referringSource=articleShare

#eurovirus
 
nsacpi said:
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#laidership
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"....five years down the road (from 2014)......"

Had Trump not been so set on destroying every good thing Obama did the country would've had more experts on the job long before Trump began publicly talking about virus.
 
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I wanted to check in on Sweden who have courageously volunteered to be the world's do nothing guinea pigs:

Daily Death Count
3/29 5
3/30 26
3/31 24
4/1 59
4/2 43
4/3 74
4/4 15
4/5 28
4/6 76
4/7 114
4/8 96

And what about FINLAND
3/29 2
3/30 2
3/31 4
4/1 0
4/2 2
4/3 1
4/4 5
4/5 3
4/6 -1 (a resurrection I presume)
4/7 7
4/8 6

FINLAND has a population of 5.5 million and Sweden 10.3 million. But the main reason this is an unfair comparison is that FINLAND is the world's greatest country. So let's be more fair by comparing Sweden with Norway (population 5.4 million).

Daily Death Count for Norway
3/29 3
3/30 6
3/31 7
4/1 5
4/2 6
4/3 9
4/4 3
4/5 9
4/6 5
4/7 13
4/8 12

I guess laissez faire aint what it's cracked up to be.
 
nsacpi said:
I wanted to check in on Sweden who have courageously volunteered to be the world's do nothing guinea pigs:

Daily Death Count
3/29 5
3/30 26
3/31 24
4/1 59
4/2 43
4/3 74
4/4 15
4/5 28
4/6 76
4/7 114
4/8 96

And what about FINLAND
3/29 2
3/30 2
3/31 4
4/1 0
4/2 2
4/3 1
4/4 5
4/5 3
4/6 -1 (a resurrection I presume)
4/7 7
4/8 6

FINLAND has a population of 5.5 million and Sweden 10.3 million. But the main reason this is an unfair comparison is that FINLAND is the world's greatest country. So let's be more fair by comparing Sweden with Norway (population 5.4 million).

Daily Death Count for Norway
3/29 3
3/30 6
3/31 7
4/1 5
4/2 6
4/3 9
4/4 3
4/5 9
4/6 5
4/7 13
4/8 12

I guess laissez faire aint what it's cracked up to be.
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Isn’t the point of Sweden’s approach is they are pulling in their curve because everyone is going to get this disease? Seems silly to do this comparison until the end when we see the full curve.
 
by thethe logic

we can't trust those numbers no matter what

they are just a step below the communist chinese in their beliefs of democratic socialism he hates
 
When the GOP figures out that Covid is killing more blacks than whites it will be the end of shelter in place.
 
nsacpi said:
New research indicates that the coronavirus began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February, weeks before the first confirmed case, and that travelers brought in the virus mainly from Europe, not Asia.

“The majority is clearly European,” said Harm van Bakel, a geneticist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, who co-wrote a study awaiting peer review.

A separate team at N.Y.U. Grossman School of Medicine came to strikingly similar conclusions, despite studying a different group of cases. Both teams analyzed genomes from coronaviruses taken from New Yorkers starting in mid-March.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/...ope-genomes.html?referringSource=articleShare

#eurovirus
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Maybe I missed it but where in this article do they show how they know this is the case?
 
nsacpi said:
New research indicates that the coronavirus began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February, weeks before the first confirmed case, and that travelers brought in the virus mainly from Europe, not Asia.

“The majority is clearly European,” said Harm van Bakel, a geneticist at Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, who co-wrote a study awaiting peer review.

A separate team at N.Y.U. Grossman School of Medicine came to strikingly similar conclusions, despite studying a different group of cases. Both teams analyzed genomes from coronaviruses taken from New Yorkers starting in mid-March.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/...ope-genomes.html?referringSource=articleShare

#eurovirus
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Time to go to War with Europe!
 
thethe said:
Maybe I missed it but where in this article do they show how they know this is the case?
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I mean, a good chunk of the article is spent on that.

The nextstrain site is pretty cool actually.

Also bad news for the thethe model:

“I’m quite confident that it was not spreading in December in the United States,” Dr. Bedford said. “There may have been a couple other introductions in January that didn’t take off in the same way.”
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Metaphysicist said:
I mean, a good chunk of the article is spent on that.

The nextstrain site is pretty cool actually.

Also bad news for the thethe model:
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A good chunk of the article dismisses the bioweapon angle. This was more of a political article as opposed to scientific.

I dont see the theory and approach to identify this but I'll look through the link you referenced.
 
These experts were also confident that hundreds of thiusand would die even with mitigation...

So yeah.
 
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