The Coronavirus, not the beer

[The Tariff King]

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This moron is delaying getting money to people so he can have his ugly ass chicken scratch on there for a govt funded publicity stunt for himself

"It will be the first time a president’s name appears on an IRS disbursement, whether a routine refund or one of the handful of checks the government has issued to taxpayers in recent decades either to stimulate a down economy or share the dividends of a strong one."


I mean, we knew he was an insecure man, who has been using press briefings as a campaign rally, but man.

Just when you think the bar can't get set any lower.

 

[nsacpi]

On March 16, the public health departments of seven San Francisco Bay Area counties issued shelter-in-place orders and ordered all non-essential businesses to close as of March 17. It was the first such order in the United States.

Just thought I'd give a shout-out to those counties: Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, San Mateo and San Francisco.

“History will not forgive us for waiting an hour more.”
--------San Jose Mayor Sam Liccardo

 

[Runnin]

By mid-March this thing was spreading at warp speed. A day or two on social distancing made a big difference. I think your mayor saved a lot of lives.

By my very rough and amateurish calculations we have about 4 million infections right now nationally. If we had waited 10 days longer to social distance it would be more like 20 million nationally. Five times as many people in the hospital. Five times as many deaths.

Trump's hissy fit in India (late Feb) probably added another 2 or 3 weeks to the virus spreading before social distancing was adopted.

 

[nsacpi]

You’d be amazed at how many really old people are hitting the grocery stores in the middle of the daY

My in-laws, both in their late 80s, ventured out to go grocery shopping today. First time since they started social distancing. They are bored. It is stupid. As of a week ago, there had been 95 cases in their town.

 

[nsacpi]

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proof that great minds think alike

 

[goldfly]

i swear, whatever a president has "never done before"

you could get this ****ing child to do it

it doesn't even matter what "it" is

 

[cajunrevenge]

Manafort is begging a judge to let him out of prison because of the coronavirus..... when you get convicted of witness tampering I dont think you should get any breaks like that. History shows he would just use that leniency to try and corrupt the process even more.

 

[chop2chip]

I thought this headline from the NYT was interesting...

“At least 9,282 U.S. health care professionals had contracted the coronavirus as of April 9 and that 27 had died from it. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention cautioned that the numbers were most likely higher.“

That’s a remarkably low number of deaths. Granted the subject pool is bias, but it’s another indicator that the young and healthy don’t have much to worry about.

 

[Runnin]

I thought this headline from the NYT was interesting...

“At least 9,282 U.S. health care professionals had contracted the coronavirus as of April 9 and that 27 had died from it. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention cautioned that the numbers were most likely higher.“

That’s a remarkably low number of deaths. Granted the subject pool is bias, but it’s another indicator that the young and healthy don’t have much to worry about.

Damn! I read that wrong at first.

But I wouldn't go quite that far. 27 people had a lot to worry about. Probably all of those 10,000 infected received the best of care.

 

[thethe]

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[Tapate50]

At the same time if anyone is equipped with the financial means to successfully fight off the Wuhan virus it’s the people of Hilton Head.

This virus doesn't give **** if it hits someone with money or not.

No one is not getting care because of financial status.

 

[Carp]

This virus doesn't give **** if it hits someone with money or not.

No one is not getting care because of financial status.

True. But some people displaying symptoms have been turned away by hospitals because their symptoms weren't severe enough. Rich people can likely afford private home care that could treat symptoms better, though I'm sure these cases are few and far between.

 

[thethe]

True. But some people displaying symptoms have been turned away by hospitals because their symptoms weren't severe enough. Rich people can likely afford private home care that could treat symptoms better, though I'm sure these cases are few and far between.

I agree with this.

Like anything in life its always better for people with money.

 

[Tapate50]

True. But some people displaying symptoms have been turned away by hospitals because their symptoms weren't severe enough. Rich people can likely afford private home care that could treat symptoms better, though I'm sure these cases are few and far between.

LOL. Ok.

Yes, hospitals are full and need to turn away people with mild symptoms. There is no need to put someone on a vent when they are running a 99 degree temp and some body aches.

We are in the hotspot of GA and I've not heard one person get in home care. First of all, no "private nurse service" is going to get IVs made somewhere and setting up shop in someones covid positive home.

In no way is this reality.

 

[Tapate50]

I agree with this.

Like anything in life its always better for people with money.

Ive read this over and over on this board.

Our hospital services an area of about 250 square miles of the poorest counties in GA. Almost every person that walks in there is indigent. They get seen and taken care of and discharged. I'm not saying its not better for people with money or insurance at all, but people don't get kicked to the curb without getting the treatment they need.

 

[thethe]

Ive read this over and over on this board.

Our hospital services an area of about 250 square miles of the poorest counties in GA. Almost every person that walks in there is indigent. They get seen and taken care of and discharged. I'm not saying its not better for people with money or insurance at all, but people don't get kicked to the curb without getting the treatment they need.

I agree with this 100%.

Sorry if my posts implied otherwise.

 

[Carp]

LOL. Ok.

Yes, hospitals are full and need to turn away people with mild symptoms. There is no need to put someone on a vent when they are running a 99 degree temp and some body aches.

We are in the hotspot of GA and I've not heard one person get in home care. First of all, no "private nurse service" is going to get IVs made somewhere and setting up shop in someones covid positive home.

In no way is this reality.

May be, may be not. I'm not rich, so I don't know what sort of access and influence these sort of people have. I don't disagree with your general premise, but rich people do have better access to care even in times of a pandemic. I do think these cases are likely few and far between.

We already see celebrities and relatives or celebrities dying, so clearly even the best care money can buy can't prevent this virus from taking you or your loved ones.

 

[Tapate50]

Carp- I don't know you but its flat out against the law to refuse medical treatment to those that need it. What lawyer wouldn't take a case like that to cash in on millions from a hospitals E\O policy?

EMTLA act of 86 makes it black and white illegal to refuse treatment to indigent or private care individuals if they need it.

The likely options are A) someone felt like they needed more and docs disagreed with the patient or B) someone wanted attention so they ran to the media or C) a hospital would like to get sued for blatantly breaking the law and owe millions of dollars in an open and shut settlement.

I'll let you decide what is more likely in that scenario.

 

[Tapate50]

May be, may be not. I'm not rich, so I don't know what sort of access and influence these sort of people have. I don't disagree with your general premise, but rich people do have better access to care even in times of a pandemic.

influence won't get an IV made and sent to my house.

unless you have a private nurse service and doctor that makes house calls this is irrelevant.

if you needed this level of care you would be at a hospital next to Joe Shmoe the garbage man.

 

[Carp]

Carp- I don't know you but its flat out against the law to refuse medical treatment to those that need it. What lawyer wouldn't take a case like that to cash in on millions from a hospitals E\O policy?

EMTLA act of 86 makes it black and white illegal to refuse treatment to indigent or private care individuals if they need it.

The likely options are A) someone felt like they needed more and docs disagreed with the patient or B) someone wanted attention so they ran to the media or C) a hospital would like to get sued for blatantly breaking the law and owe millions of dollars in an open and shut settlement.

I'll let you decide what is more likely in that scenario.

I deleted the post as I didn't see your earlier one about the mild symptoms. I was posting about cases where people have been running fevers of up to 101 and experiencing other symptoms consistent with COVID-19 (sore throat, cough, etc.) and told to go home and self quarantine. I've not heard of any recent cases. It's probably been about 2 weeks, when mass testing wasn't available in my area. My mother-in law manages a local hospital and says they received less than 20 or so tests, initially, and were told only to test severe patients displaying signs of COVID-19, and tell any other patients to go home and self quarantine for 14 days and only come back if their fever reaches like 103 for an extended period of time or they start having shortness of breath.