The Coronavirus, not the beer

LOL coming the guy who doesn't care that 100+ thousand of his own people are going to die before July, just as long as he can get his haircut and go to the movies.

These mandates are literally, 100% legal. I'm sorry your tiny brain can't comprehend this.

What the germans did was 100% legal too
 
some things don't change

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/05/06/mask-protests-flu-san-francisco-coronavirus/

A century ago, a band of San Franciscans, led by several prominent business leaders and physicians, staged a rebellion. The Anti-Mask League held a public meeting on Jan. 25, 1919, that was attended by several thousand jeering residents demanding a permanent end to the city mask ordinance.

The gathering at the Dreamland Rink boxing arena devolved into a screaming match between moderates, who wanted to circulate a petition to rescind the ordinance, and extremists agitating to fire Hassler, before a booming voice announced an abrupt lights-out, according to historian Alfred W. Crosby, author of “America’s Forgotten Pandemic: The Influenza of 1918.”

City officials appeared to meet the protesters’ threats with calm resolve.

“What surprises me is that I have no requests from any others except the members of the Anti-Mask League who come here,” Rolph said, according to the minutes of the Jan. 27, 1919, Board of Supervisors meeting. “No petitions, no personal appeals have been made to me by anyone to hasten the removal of masks. To me the people of San Francisco are happy that the influenza is on the wane. I personally believe that the masks have had something to do with it.”
 
You mean like how 70K people are dead in roughly 2 months?

oh, that's the reason we should give up our rights? Because the states did a terrible job protecting the most at risk?

This is your justification?
 
****...why are we even letting blacks and women vote?

Crazy that we needed extra new laws and constitutional amendments to "give them rights".

If only the constitution, bill of rights, and declaration of independence wasn't so vague on who it was referring to when it was first written.
 
Do tell.

And I'm reminded that slavery was 100% legal too.

Thank goodness for legality. Everything that is legal is moral in carps world

Your strawman arguments are super weak.

I forget, what document was it that gave people the right to own slaves? It's almost as if the government updated that document as time went on. Weird.
 
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You keep justifying **** by claiming it's legal. It's not a strawman.

Legality doesnt equal moral.

If the power crazed politicians want to make a constitutional amendment to enforce this ****... let them
 
Your strawman arguments are super weak.

I forget, what document was it that gave people the right to own slaves? It's almost as if the government updated that document as time went on. Weird.

I linked an article to the Anti-Mask League in San Francisco in 1919. There was an ordinance requiring people to wear masks during the Spanish Flu. I think that is a better analogy than the Holocaust or slavery. Being required to wear masks is an obvious infringement on personal liberty. The elected officials of San Francisco weighed that infringement against the possible benefits.

Anyhow it seems to me this did not lead to long-term damage to our constitutional rights. After the pandemic subsided the ordinance was repealed or allowed to lapse. But it probably did some good while in force.
 
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I notice that the "get a haircut" line is the popular go to for the authoritarians... but a friendly reminder that 21M people lost their jobs in April... smashing the record.

I'd be curious if we pulled them what they would think of lockdown extensions
 
I notice that the "get a haircut" line is the popular go to for the authoritarians... but a friendly reminder that 21M people lost their jobs in April... smashing the record.

I'd be curious if we pulled them what they would think of lockdown extensions

There has been fairly extensive polling on this.
 
You keep justifying **** by claiming it's legal. It's not a strawman.

Legality doesnt equal moral.


If the power crazed politicians want to make a constitutional amendment to enforce this ****... let them


I mean it was upheld in highest of courts and Texas courts just recently used this ruling to uphold a ban on abortions during the pandemic. I realize you don't care who dies just as long as you can get a haircut. Most of us do care though.
 
Gonna be fun when the bankrupted cities (before covid) beg the feds for bailout money using covid as an excuse.

DeBlasio already saying they cant re open bc they cant afford to.
 
From March 2019

For the first time since 2010, Moody’s Investors Service has upgraded the City of New York’s General Obligation Bond credit rating. The rating was upgraded from Aa2 to Aa1, their second highest rating and equivalent to New York State’s Aa1 rating, which is significant because a local government is rarely rated as high as its home state. The Aa1 rating is the highest Moody’s credit rating the City has ever received.

Moody’s increased the City’s rating due to its increased economic diversity and decreased reliance on revenue from Wall St., its highly skilled workforce, first-class education and medical centers and low crime rates, among other factors. The upgrade is attributable to the City’s ongoing strong financial management – including the highest level of reserves the city has ever seen, affording it greater flexibility to respond to the next economic downturn.


The above would suggest NY city was hardly on the verge of bankruptcy pre-COVID-19.
 
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