57Brave
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why ?
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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nsacpi
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cuz we have some brilliant posters around here
sturg33
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Says the person posting a video that's grounded in internet rumors.
It's honestly hilarious that all Trumpsters bitch and moan the media and their lies and not to believe what the media tells you, then they proceed into believing random people on the internet. Lol.
sturg33
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Ben Swann is one of the best media personalities I've ever seen.
You know what he did in that video? He INVESTIGATED internet rumors and labs who manipulated their data.
I know that is not something a journalist is supposed to do anymore, so I forgive you for being thrown off there
cajunrevenge
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goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
it's the best
Except he didn't actually do any investigating. He essentially spliced together all the rumors into one report. He never actually investigated the veracity of these claims (which would be an actual investigation). The basis of his argument is essentially, "There a bunch of reports of the same thing happening, therefore this must be true."
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zbhargrove
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This is one of the best media personalities you've ever seen? I know you're better than this. From his Wikipedia article, all completely and accurately sourced:
"Swann has reported on many conspiracy theories and false claims, several of which are aligned with narratives pushed by his former employer, the Russian state-run RT.[28][36][23] On his personal YouTube channel, Swann posted videos discussing debunked conspiracy theories about the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, including a conspiracy theory that shooter did not commit the act alone.[37][11] He also discounted the conclusion that 2012 Aurora, Colorado shooting was conducted by a lone gunman.[23][8] There is no evidence that any additional shooters were present at the shootings. The theory of multiple gunmen may have been influenced by early news reports of the events.[38][39][40] Swann also has questioned whether 7 World Trade Center collapsed the way authorities said it did on September 11, 2001.[37]
In December 2016, one of Swann's CBS 46 Reality Check segments on the Syrian Civil War titled "If [Syrian President Bashar al] Assad is Committing Genocide in Aleppo, Why Are People Celebrating in the Streets?" went viral on Facebook.[23] Ben Collins of The Daily Beast said this "mirrors a narrative within several stories written by Kremlin state media outfit RT in the past several weeks".[36][additional citation(s) needed]
In an appearance in 2015 RT America, Swann said that "any credible evidence does not seem to exist" that Russia shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.[23] The plane's crash was investigated by the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) and the Dutch-led joint investigation team (JIT), who concluded that the airliner was downed by a Buk surface-to-air missile launched from pro-Russian separatist-controlled territory in Ukraine.[41][42]
Swann was described by David Gorski as "antivaccine-sympathetic" for reporting on "CDC whistleblower" documents from William Thompson, a doctor working for the Centers for Disease Control – documents that have not shown evidence that the CDC covered-up a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism.[43][44]
He later dedicated a Reality Check segment to the debunked Pizzagate conspiracy theory that emerged during the 2016 United States presidential election cycle, contending that Pizzagate may have been true, and called for a police investigation of the allegations.[45][46] Misinformation regarding Pizzagate was spread through social media and websites.[47][48] The story was discredited by a wide array of organizations, including the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia, fact-checking sites, and reputable news organizations.[49][50][51][52] After the Pizzagate segment aired, Swann was briefly suspended from WGCL-TV and he later closed some of his social media accounts,[53] but he left one Facebook account where he continued to post conspiracy-related and anti-government memes.[54]"
nsacpi
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sturg33
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Ge sourced people on the rump and got hundreds of first hand accounts. Why do you dismiss hundreds of first hand accounts?
He also asked the very simple question about lab reporting being manipulated. To date, you and others haven't touched this subject on this board.
He made no conclusions... he presented a set of people who are experiencing very odd behavior in civil tracking. It would be great if we had fire fighting journos looking into this more... bc states are making lockdown decisions based on top line case counts
sturg33
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Yes Swann investigates large stories... presents only facts in them, and let's viewers make up their mind.
I haven't viewed any of the videos referenced above but knowing Swanns style id imagine he did nothing in them but report facts. Happy to be proven wrong
nsacpi
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Correct. Here is his methodology.
1) Invite viewers to self report these so-called incidents
2) Accept the claims at face value
That is as far from investigative journalism as is possible to get.
What if Rachel Maddow invited her viewers to report cases where relatives died of covid but were not counted as covid deaths, and she just accepted everything her viewers reported back at face value. It would rightly be considered some sort of joke.
Or someone went to Portland and started asking people if any of them had been improperly arrested by the federal forces. And simply treated any and all such claims as true. Also a joke.
That kind of "reporting" doesn't get past the news editor at a high school newspaper.
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zbhargrove
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Wow, that's one of the weakest replies I've seen in this thread, and that's saying something.