Cuomo was honest about nursing home deaths!
Conspiracy to suggest otherwise.
This guy actually serious with a stupid comment like this?
The Coronavirus, not the beer
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Cuomo was honest about nursing home deaths!
Conspiracy to suggest otherwise.
This guy actually serious with a stupid comment like this?
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
Moron we've discussed comorbidity a thousand times.
You just keep coming off looking dumber and dumber.
We don't have the final numbers but the estimation is 500K excess deaths. You can pick apart whatever you want, I don't care you're so looney that you'll be picked up by Hanna Barbara.
You still haven't told me about how Sweden who did all the things you said, haven't eliminated the virus. In fact going against your recommendations and issuing light mask mandates Sweden has lowered their Covid cases to pre-winter levels. Though we could do what Brazil has been doing hwich is what you're advocating, **** it you're young you won't die and see a huge spike in cases in the summer that leads an average of 66K new cases (USA at the same basic season time of early september was sitting around 35K) and 1500 deaths (7 day average was under 1K for the US) and we have 50% more of a population.
Hmmm it really seems like you're so smart.
Please show you're work then. I read plenty on it. Nothing supports a notion that hundreds of thousands of deaths are being misreported from people dying of COVID related reasons.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I only do it to put some truth in with thethe's blatant lies.
Like listen, I don't care if you have a Trump/thethe opinion that the economy is more important than millions of americans lives. That's fine if that's your opinion. But don't pretend like people would be safe in a global pandemic that has killed millions of people who weren't expected to die last year.
Do you know how a hospital determines a covid death?
I'm willing to admit I was wrong on that, though at the time all you had to go on was rumors. You have still yet to admit you were massively wrong on the IFR and 60k deaths.
So yes, one of us lives in reality, and it certainly isn't you.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
bumping from 3/10/2020
going back a year ago to see what folks were saying
Why would I have to admit I was wrong on that when the number speaks for itself? 500k certainly didn’t die BECAUSE of covid but it’s certainly more than the final range I gave.
And it wasnt rumor at the time it was pretty much solid reporting just like the hunter Biden laptop. Some people just refused to live in reality because of the orange man.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
bump from 3/10/2020
Yes I am well aware of that. And again, nothing supports the notion that hundreds of thousands of deaths are being mislabeled as COVID deaths. Is the rest of the world in on this little conspiracy of yours too?
Wrong again, though I'm not surprised to see you spouting blatant lies like this. It fits your narrative to a "T".
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
We can dispense with how hospitals count covid deaths and look at the excess deaths data, which are running almost 20% higher than the official covid count.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/14/us/covid-19-death-toll.html
Nothing supports the notion after the guidance on what constitutes a positive test was changed? Do you even realize how many false positives were put into the record and later recorded as covid deaths when a patient would die a month later? Does that mean 50k 100k or more deaths were improperly recorded? I have no clue. What I am confident of is that 500k number is absolutely overstated.
While it’s true that in 6% of COVID-19-related deaths, COVID-19 was the only diagnosis listed on the death certificate, that’s only part of the picture.
“Many clinicians will list the physiologic process which caused death,” says Dr. Braunstein. “For example, 55,000 of the death certificates had ‘respiratory failure’ listed as cause of death—we know that this is one of the most common mechanisms by which COVID-19 leads to death. We also know that in over 160,000 of the 180,000-plus deaths caused by COVID-19 in the US, COVID-19 was one of the diagnoses that was listed on the death certificate, and was felt to be the trigger for mortality.”
The CDC has never hidden the fact that pre-existing health conditions can cause people to experience serious complications from COVID-19.
https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/cdc-6-percent-covid-deaths
“Many clinicians will list the physiologic process which caused death,” says Dr. Braunstein. “For example, 55,000 of the death certificates had ‘respiratory failure’ listed as cause of death—we know that this is one of the most common mechanisms by which COVID-19 leads to death. We also know that in over 160,000 of the 180,000-plus deaths caused by COVID-19 in the US, COVID-19 was one of the diagnoses that was listed on the death certificate, and was felt to be the trigger for mortality.”
The CDC has never hidden the fact that pre-existing health conditions can cause people to experience serious complications from COVID-19.
https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/cdc-6-percent-covid-deaths
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"Up to 25%" is not "at least 25%". That is clear and blatant misrepresentation by you and people like you.
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I literally posted about it in the post above that one. And again, you're an idiot for believing the right wing sites that said the CDC listed only 6% of COVID deaths are from COVID.
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And there is a fairly large gap in the area she is talking about. "Up to 25" includes anywhere from 1% to 25%. And as I recall, you and the Trumpians quickly turned on her in August when she spoke out against Trump. So I guess her opinion only matters when it fits your narrative.