The Coronavirus, not the beer
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sturg33
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They are pretty skinny, too
cajunrevenge
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Remember when we said "Trump wont be that bad, my life will still be the same". Would you say that's going well?
Tapate50
Well-known member
Yeah we realized a week or two into the real lockdown there’s no reason golf should be shut down and they opened it back up.
msstate7
Well-known member
Clown post. Is life the same in say Italy and Germany? Is trump to blame for that? In the us, life is closest to back to normal in states in the south where it's mostly red.
Bottom line is the US was always going to get hit hard because we have a tremendous amount of fat lazy people in this country.
Anyone saying otherwise is a hysterical fool.
acesfull86
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If the left cared about the ccp virus at all this would have been the discussion but to them it was just a cudgel to beat Trump. No interest in actual lives as usual.
Maybe the lecturer can tell us obesity is not a big driver of mortality.
If the left cared about the ccp virus at all this would have been the discussion but to them it was just a cudgel to beat Trump. No interest in actual lives as usual.
Maybe the lecturer can tell us obesity is not a big driver of mortality.
acesfull86
Well-known member
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm?s_cid=mm7013e3_w
What is already known about this topic?
Messenger RNA (mRNA) COVID-19 vaccines have been shown to be effective in preventing symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection in randomized placebo-controlled Phase III trials.
What is added by this report?
Prospective cohorts of 3,950 health care personnel, first responders, and other essential and frontline workers completed weekly SARS-CoV-2 testing for 13 consecutive weeks. Under real-world conditions, mRNA vaccine effectiveness of full immunization (≥14 days after second dose) was 90% against SARS-CoV-2 infections regardless of symptom status; vaccine effectiveness of partial immunization (≥14 days after first dose but before second dose) was 80%.
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90% after two doses, but 80% after one
So again, why is our strategy to reserve 2nd doses rather than than getting twice as many people their first shot? We could’ve given twice as many people great protection versus half the amount of people excellent protection...would be that much closer to herd immunity while saving a lot of lives along the way
What is already known about this topic?
Messenger RNA (mRNA) COVID-19 vaccines have been shown to be effective in preventing symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection in randomized placebo-controlled Phase III trials.
What is added by this report?
Prospective cohorts of 3,950 health care personnel, first responders, and other essential and frontline workers completed weekly SARS-CoV-2 testing for 13 consecutive weeks. Under real-world conditions, mRNA vaccine effectiveness of full immunization (≥14 days after second dose) was 90% against SARS-CoV-2 infections regardless of symptom status; vaccine effectiveness of partial immunization (≥14 days after first dose but before second dose) was 80%.
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90% after two doses, but 80% after one
So again, why is our strategy to reserve 2nd doses rather than than getting twice as many people their first shot? We could’ve given twice as many people great protection versus half the amount of people excellent protection...would be that much closer to herd immunity while saving a lot of lives along the way
sturg33
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Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
It's a perfectly reasonable question. When you run the projected final numbers, even that extra 10% could tip the scales toward herd immunity, depending of course on how many people get the vaccine. So, it would potentially have an immediate advantage that could ultimately make it all pointless. The numbers above, by the way, are quite different than the ones in the study. I believe Pfizer had 52% after the first shot and 95% after the second. We also have no concrete info on how effective one shot would be long term.
tululush
New member
Kind of ironic considering people like you refuse to get vaccinated. Lol yet here you are lecturing people on critical thinking.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Science absolutely does not show this in any way, shape, or form. Just stop it. You have no clue when it comes to this, and you show it over and over and over.
When the science shows you have a .01% (generous for many groups) chance of dying then that definitively is showing you don’t need a vaccine.
Much more risky activities that exist which are done on a daily basis.
Woke leftists killed hundreds of thousands of Americans.