The Coronavirus, not the beer

sturg33 said:
endless booster shots for waning effectiveness is quite a society to build. the left sure knows how to make everything turn to ****

What is going on in Israel?
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Israel will give people boosters as long as it helps saves lives.

A truly bizarre concept. Next thing you know doctors will be telling people they have to take a certain medication every day for the rest of their lives.

Definitely a step toward tyranny and the end of democracy in Israel. Next they will be shooting puppies.
 
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The lecturing buffoon on record as supporting Australia's surveillance and internment camp laws and comparing it to drunk driving.

Imagine letting Donal Trump completely dismantle you
 
sturg33 said:
The lecturing buffoon on record as supporting Australia's surveillance and internment camp laws and comparing it to drunk driving.

Imagine letting Donal Trump completely dismantle you
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He is like a 15 year old girl with a feud because another girl took his boyfriend.

Its sad.
 
sturg33 said:
He was universally mocked by the media and dem politicians for saying a vaccine was possible in the timeframe he said
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That doesn’t mean the act of fast tracking a vaccine was novel or inspired. It means the critics were wrong about the plausibility. Just because one group was wrong, it doesn’t mean the act of rushing it was any less obvious.
 
sturg33 said:
The lecturing buffoon on record as supporting Australia's surveillance and internment camp laws and comparing it to drunk driving.

Imagine letting Donal Trump completely dismantle you
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curious what you got " right" ?

and what are your feeling about mask wearing?
Haven't seen anything yet today.

And please spare everyone the my think tank can beat up your think tank nonsense
 
sturg33 said:
He clearly meant vaccination = 2 hots plus two more boosters

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Vaccines are making healthy people more susceptible to infection.

The staggering of when the vaccines expire is causing a situation where you can never have the right percentage protected at one time.

That is why we have ALWAYS handled viruses like this by going with herd immunity.

Sweden knew and now the country is doing incredibly well.
 
sturg33 said:
Right from my home town!

Your daily reminder that masks are useless

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was there a control county

here is a study across villages in Bangladesh that had control villages

https://www.poverty-action.org/site..._RCT____Symptomatic_Seropositivity_083121.pdf

Background: Mask usage remains low across many parts of the world during the COVID19 pandemic, and strategies to increase mask-wearing remain untested. Our objectives were
to identify strategies that can persistently increase mask-wearing and assess the impact of
increasing mask-wearing on symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections.
Methods: We conducted a cluster-randomized trial of community-level mask promotion in
rural Bangladesh from November 2020 to April 2021 (N=600 villages, N=342,126 adults).
We cross-randomized mask promotion strategies at the village and household level, including
cloth vs. surgical masks. All intervention arms received free masks, information on the importance of masking, role modeling by community leaders, and in-person reminders for 8 weeks.
The control group did not receive any interventions. Neither participants nor field staff were
blinded to intervention assignment. Outcomes included symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 seroprevalence (primary) and prevalence of proper mask-wearing, physical distancing, and symptoms
consistent with COVID-19 (secondary). Mask-wearing and physical distancing were assessed
through direct observation at least weekly at mosques, markets, the main entrance roads to
villages, and tea stalls. At 5 and 9 weeks follow-up, we surveyed all reachable participants
about COVID-related symptoms. Blood samples collected at 10-12 weeks of follow-up for
symptomatic individuals were analyzed for SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibodies.
Results: There were 178,288 individuals in the intervention group and 163,838 individuals
in the control group. The intervention increased proper mask-wearing from 13.3% in control
villages (N=806,547 observations) to 42.3% in treatment villages (N=797,715 observations)
(adjusted percentage point difference = 0.29 [0.27, 0.31]). This tripling of mask usage was sustained during the intervention period and two weeks after. Physical distancing increased from
24.1% in control villages to 29.2% in treatment villages (adjusted percentage point difference
= 0.05 [0.04, 0.06]). After 5 months, the impact of the intervention faded, but mask-wearing
remained 10 percentage points higher in the intervention group.
The proportion of individuals with COVID-like symptoms was 7.62% (N=13,273) in the
intervention arm and 8.62% (N=13,893) in the control arm. Blood samples were collected
from N=10,952 consenting, symptomatic individuals. Adjusting for baseline covariates, the
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intervention reduced symptomatic seroprevalence by 9.3% (adjusted prevalence ratio (aPR) =
0.91 [0.82, 1.00]; control prevalence 0.76%; treatment prevalence 0.68%). In villages randomized to surgical masks (n = 200), the relative reduction was 11.2% overall (aPR = 0.89 [0.78,
1.00]) and 34.7% among individuals 60+ (aPR = 0.65 [0.46, 0.85]). No adverse events were
reported.
Conclusions: Our intervention demonstrates a scalable and effective method to promote mask
adoption and reduce symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections.
 
LOL - They had no clue who had COVID before their testing so your 'control' versus 'variable' subset is worthless.

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SARS-CoV-2 testing Blood samples were tested for the presence of IgG antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 using the SCoV-2 Detect™ IgG ELISA kit (InBios, Seattle, Washington). This assay detects IgG antibodies against the spike protein subunit (S1) of SARS-CoV-2. The assays were performed according to the manufacturer’s instructions. Briefly, serum samples were diluted 1:100 with sample dilution buffer. 50 microliters of diluted specimens were added to the SCoV-2 antigen-coated microtiter strip plates. After one hour of incubation at 37°C, the plate was washed 15 six times with wash buffer, and conjugate solution was added to each well. The plate was incubated for another 30 minutes at 37°C and washed six times with wash buffer. 75 microliters of liquid TMB substrate were added to all wells followed by 20 minutes of incubation in the dark at room temperature before the reaction was stopped. The absorbance was read on a microplate reader at 450nm (GloMax® Microplate Reader, Promega Corporation, Madison, WI). After calibration according to positive, negative, and cut-off controls, the immunological status ratio (ISR) was calculated as the ratio of optical density divided by the cut-off value. Samples were considered positive if the ISR value was determined to be at least 1.1. Samples with an ISR value 0.9 or below were considered negative. Samples with equivocal ISR values were retested in duplicate, and resulting ISR values were averaged. Individuals were coded as symptomatic seropositive if they reported symptoms consistent with the WHO COVID-19 case definition, their blood was collected, and the antibody test was positive
 
And the researchers found that the intervention group displayed other characteristics like more physical distance between individuals.

More reason why the experiment is not isolating 'masking'.
 
Study is also based on self reporting symptoms so then you would need to understand the attitudes of people. Some people think a sneeze is a symptom (negative COVID test) while others will go a whole day with a runny nose and not think a thing.

Looks like lecturer doesn't actually read the studies he brings to the table.

Dont' worry I'll do the work for you.
 
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