The Coronavirus, not the beer

sturg33 said:
But it would have been worse!!!

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This is much better data than you usually quote as it controls for geographic differences and so is a much better example. However, it still has issues. Geographic similarities does not equal population similarities. For example, Orange County residents earn 20% more than LA County residents. Statisticians have established a correlation between poverty and infection rates. The poorer an area is, the higher the rates of infection. I'd like to see these numbers controlled for income differences.

There's another problem with the data in that these counties are next door to one another and people ignore county lines. If you pick up COVID at your job in Orange County and go back home to LA County, you'll be counted in LA County's statistics.

However, I actually agree that mask mandates are largely useless as they're very, very difficult to enforce. They're more aspirational than enforceable.

The conclusion that is not supported by this data at all is whether mask wearing is effective and to what extent. It doesn't speak to rates of mask wearing. I actually would wager that the mask wearing rates of these two counties aren't that different due to the fact that mask mandates are so difficult to enforce. It wouldn't surprise me if rates of wearing masks was lower in LA County due to a backlash against being forced to wear one.
 
thethe said:
So you mean - The normal pattern that every single place in the world is experiencing despite vaccine rate, mask usage, lockdowns, etc....?
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And the ICU usage would have been significantly less with higher vaccination rates as the vast majority of ICU patients with Covid were unvaccinated.
 
sturg33 said:
Much like 9/11 leading to massive loss of liberty, the NSA, TSA, DHS, and 2 infinity wars, I fear what this will lead to.

Government tracking our movements to ensure we are keeping distance. I've read movie theaters saying things like taking people's temperature permentantly... limits on congregations? The federal government taking means of PPE production? This could easily go all sorts of ways.

And now that we will go through a depression, the government will 'need' to step in to take this control
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From April 2020...

I was way too optimistic
 
The lecturing buffoon is quite comfortable with this new way of life. After all, he will show lower deaths than most countries. So this is the way.

He is a clown

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This was a year ago. The lecturing buffoon would call them pro-covid, anti vax

Of course, this is when Trump was President, so all rules don't apply

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sturg33 said:
From April 2020...

I was way too optimistic
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Nailed it.

Some of us warned this would happen.

Nobody should ever forget that “Covid” death numbers are based on a test that has a high degree false positive and can’t distinguish between the flu and ccp virus.

Worked out really well for the globalists.
 
sturg33 said:
The lecturing buffoon is quite comfortable with this new way of life. After all, he will show lower deaths than most countries. So this is the way.

He is a clown

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remember i favor dismemberment of pro-covid traitors

they are causing an order of magnitude more deaths than drunk drivers

penalties should reflect harm caused to society

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/21/briefing/rapid-testing-covid-us.html

Even as President Biden has followed a Covid policy much better aligned with scientific evidence than Donald Trump’s, Biden has not broken through some of the bureaucratic rigidity that has hampered the U.S. virus response.

In the case of rapid tests, the F.D.A. has loosened its rules somewhat over the past year, allowing the sale of some antigen tests (which often cost about $12 each). But drugstores, Amazon and other sellers have now largely run out of them. I tried to buy rapid tests this weekend and couldn’t find any.

The F.D.A.’s process for approving rapid tests is “onerous” and “inappropriate,” Daniel Oran and Dr. Eric Topol of Scripps Research wrote in Stat News.

For the most part, the F.D.A. still uses the same cumbersome process for approving Covid tests that it uses for high-tech medical devices. To survive that process, the rapid tests must demonstrate that they are nearly as sensitive as P.C.R. tests, which they are not.

But rapid tests do not need to be so sensitive to be effective, experts point out. P.C.R. tests often identify small amounts of the Covid virus in people who had been infected weeks earlier and are no longer contagious. Rapid tests can miss these cases while still identifying about 98 percent of cases in which a person is infectious, according to Dr. Michael Mina, a Harvard epidemiologist who has been advocating for more testing

Identifying anywhere close to 98 percent of infectious cases would sharply curb Covid’s spread. An analysis in the journal Science Advances found that test frequency matters more for reducing Covid cases than test sensitivity.

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The FDA sucks
 
boyz be careful what you put in your salad:

“Somebody sent me a thing this morning where they’re talking about putting the vaccine in salad dressing. Have you seen this? I mean, I’m thinking to myself, this is the bizarro World, right? This is definitely the bizarro world. These people are seriously thinking about how to impose their will on us in our society, and it has to stop.” – Former Trump National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, speaking yesterday on a QAnon podcst.
 
About 2,000 Americans are dying a day from covid. Overwhelmingly they come from the 70 million vaccine-eligible Americans who have not vaccinated. These pro-covid folks are the equivalent of drunk drivers. Except instead of causing 10,000 deaths a year they are causing 2,000 deaths a day. In both cases, the deaths are a mix of people taking their own lives and the lives of others. Heck of a thing to do. Killing yourself and taking down those around you in the process. What a way to go. All in the name of some weird ideology.
 
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zbhargrove said:
I'm not trying to start ****... but you really want someone that bat**** crazy in a National Security Advisor role?
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100%

His record on Afghanistan alone should make anyone BEG to have him in our military leadership over the buffoons currently holding those positions.
 
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