The Coronavirus, not the beer
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striker42
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Notice how neither Germany nor France is advising against vaccination? They're advising which to take based on the risk of side effects since both vaccines are readily available.
If I'm looking at two car seats for my son and one is safer than the other, does that make the less safe one dangerous? Should I just avoid all car seats because one car seat has slightly more risk? No. I should go with the safer one if I have the option but either car seat is safer than no car seat.
Jumping from advice on mitigating the risk of extremely rare side effects to concluding the vaccines are dangerous gene therapy is quite the jump.
They are still pushing it because big pharma has been buying out politicians around the globe.
Dude, you are so off on this and I hope you’ll come to your senses soon.
striker42
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Except the math still doesn't make sense. You're concluding the vaccine is absolutely dangerous with no data to support it.
Are there risk of side effects? Sure. Is the risk very, very low? Also yes. If it was as dangerous as you fear with the number of people vaccinated we'd be stacking up bodies like wood by now.
But I'm not going to convince you. Any data that goes against your position you've already concluded is manipulated by big pharmacy.
The vaccine is dangerous to healthy people because Covid posed basically zero risk to them.
And if you’d care to look at recent data from countries that early adopted the vaccines the people dying compose of a large portion of vaccinated people so the protection promised isn’t even the reality.
You are just refusing to acknowledge reality because of how deeply entrenched you were on the position everyone should be vaccinated which was an awful position to take.
We have absolutely no clue what this experimental gene therapy will do long term and you just decided to trust big pharma. I have no clue why considering their track record.
https://summit.news/2021/11/10/fully-vaccinated-choir-concert-ends-in-substantial-covid-19-outbreak/
Fully vaccinated gathering results in a COVID outbreak.
I can't believe how entrenched people are and unwilling to adjust their view despite mountains of evidence coming in that these vaccines are trash.
Fully vaccinated gathering results in a COVID outbreak.
I can't believe how entrenched people are and unwilling to adjust their view despite mountains of evidence coming in that these vaccines are trash.
striker42
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I've known several perfectly healthy people under 40 who have died from Covid. I've known 0 people that have had anything worse than feeling lousy for a day from the vaccine.
I've also had Covid. I'm healthy and under 40 and I can tell you that I was concerned I was going to have to go into the hospital. My breathing was terrible. I'd gladly risk the exceedingly small chance of an adverse reaction to the vaccine to increase my protection against Covid.
And we have a much better idea of what the mRNA vaccines will do long term than we do what Covid will do to someone long term. We've studied mRNA for use in vaccines for decades. We've been able to study covid for less than 2 years.
striker42
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https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19-texas-study
Yes, they're complete trash. They just lower risk of death by orders of magnitude.
So as per the CDC 17,478 people 40 or under died from COVID with all causes. Lets use the CDC number of 6% that die just from COVID (These are the 'healthy' people).
That is about 1050 people across the whole country and you know several?
Sorry, thats a bit challenging for me to believe.
I'm sorry you had trouble breathing. Your body would have protected you naturally just fine.
We have NEVER studied what a spike protein would do long term in human beings. You are just flat out wrong on this.
As long as its within the first 3-6 months. And of course these studies don't find out if vaccinated people had prior immunity. Small things that people like you just eagerly ignore.
Better get your boosters!!!
Meanwhile, natural immunity is more durable and effective.
Tapate50
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Looks like a potential issue arising for the vaccine mandate…
H2a laborers coming into US that have had a non FDA approved vaccine like Sputnik , can’t travel into US without one.
Once the time comes, the workers needs to be there and replacements would take maybe two weeks to arrive if they get held up.
Just sitting in on several discussions taking place, but it sounds like the mandate will be determined by which court hears it out.
H2a laborers coming into US that have had a non FDA approved vaccine like Sputnik , can’t travel into US without one.
Once the time comes, the workers needs to be there and replacements would take maybe two weeks to arrive if they get held up.
Just sitting in on several discussions taking place, but it sounds like the mandate will be determined by which court hears it out.
striker42
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We already discussed this. The 6% is where Covid is listed as the only cause of death on the death certificate. Of course a huge number have things like pneumonia or respiratory distress listed on the death certificate as well. These aren't pre-existing issues. These are effects of Covid. So 6% is not the figure that die from Covid alone. 6% is the figure where the doctor wrote only Covid on the death certificate instead of Covid and something more specific.
So the number of healthy people under 40 who died from Covid is way higher than 1,050.
My body did protect me naturally. I had covid last November. I managed to fight it off but it was pretty bad. And yet I'm still considered a mild case. I got the vaccine to get even more protection as I don't want to have those breathing issues again if I can help it.
We haven't studied the spike protein long term. But you know what else has the spike protein and hasn't been studies long term? Covid. Considering there's a decent chance Covid was messed with in a lab before getting out, you're remarkably okay with people getting it.
Ccp virus is a respiratory illness. Like every other one the body recovers and builds an immunity.
To compare something like the long term risk of experimental gene therapy and another respiratory virus so some pole to jump over. Problem is people aren’t aware of how experimental the treatment is and what it’s doing while in your body. We have never ever ever done something like this before in human history.
You do not know “several” healthy people under 40 that died of Covid striker. I’m sorry but the likelihood of that is .00000001%.
To compare something like the long term risk of experimental gene therapy and another respiratory virus so some pole to jump over. Problem is people aren’t aware of how experimental the treatment is and what it’s doing while in your body. We have never ever ever done something like this before in human history.
You do not know “several” healthy people under 40 that died of Covid striker. I’m sorry but the likelihood of that is .00000001%.
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striker42
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I know at least two people under 40 who were healthy and died of Covid. Your reluctance to believe me comes from your inability to accept the fact that the 6% figure you threw out is wrong. There are multiple causes of death listed with Covid that are not pre-conditions but instead effects of Covid.
So how about this, I don't know multiple people under 40 who died of covid that covid is listed as the only cause of death on their death certificate. I do know multiple people under 40 who died of covid who were not high risk before.
As for the "gene therapy," you only call it that because you don't understand what it is. What Covid does to your system is far and away more significant than what the vaccine does. After you're done with the vaccine, the only thing left are antibodies to the spike protein.
Thats because you continue to listen to people that lie consistently. I know that this will take a year or so for people to catch up. I just never thought you would be one of those people.
And fine, you may know 1 or 2 'healthy' people under 40 that died of COVID. Already your description of that number has changed.
But please continue to provide studies that don't differentiate between strictly vaccinated and vaccinated people that had prior immunity to prove your points. Your bias is showing as well.
I'm floored that someone could listen to the 'scientific community' on an experimental gene therapy when just one year ago the consensus was that the CCP virus originated naturally and that the vaccines had near 100% efficacy.
How many times will you allow yourself to be lied to by the 'academic' class?
How many times will you allow yourself to be lied to by the 'academic' class?
But believe Big Pharma when they say the experimental gene therapy is no big deal long term.
Near 100% effiacy rates against severe cases. Prevention of spread.
BELIEVE US!!!!!!